Popular Post MrPotatoTed Posted August 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 27, 2021 "The past is always tense, the future perfect." - Zadie Smith "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face -- for ever." - George Orwell "The future depends on what you do today." - Mahatma Gandhi@ConservativeElector2 @jvikings1 @DakotaHale @Hestia @SilentLiberty @Rezi @Rodja @Cal Hi friends! With @vcczar's approval, I am starting a hands-off, totally all-CPU playthrough of AMPU, beginning with the 2022 midterms. I will not post every minute detail that happens here, but I will post the significant/interesting things, and will give anyone who wants it access to the spread sheet so you can explore the details yourself if that appeals to you. I will of course continue running our main game with all of you, as my top priority. This is just something for me to do while I wait for you guys to act. As for why I'm planning to end in 2072 -- I would be 89 years old, my daughter would be 59, and 50 years was a nice round number. I also assume the entire list of politicians by then will be all randomly generated, but we'll see! Maybe Pete Buttigieg is still hanging around, yelling at the damned kids to get off his White House lawn. ;c) I'll be setting up the spreadsheet over the next few days. My biggest need, I think, is to identify the "significant" current members of the House. As you guys may know, we don't show every single seat in the House, that would be insane. We just identify a certain number of "significant" reps per state -- these are the reps who can have leadership positions, sit on committees, propose bills. So who should I include as being incumbent significant reps heading into the 2022 elections? Current leadership is obvious, including whips, committee chairs, ranking members. And AOC, I guess. But who else? I'm open to your ideas -- any openings that you guys don't list someone for, I'll just go by seniority (longest serving rep from that state). Let me know! (Also, for those who missed the notification - please send me your draft picks for the 1780 draft.) 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeElector2 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Want access, want to see details haha 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeElector2 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer MD-05 January 3, 2019Party deputy since January 3, 2003 House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn SC-06 January 3, 2019 Assistant Speaker of the House Katherine Clark MA-05 January 3, 2021 Chair, House Democratic Caucus Hakeem Jeffries NY-08 January 3, 2019 Vice Chair, House Democratic Caucus Pete Aguilar CA-31 January 3, 2021 Chair, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Sean Patrick Maloney NY-18 January 3, 2021 Co-Chairs, House Democratic Policy and Communications Committee Matt Cartwright PA-08 January 3, 2019 Debbie Dingell MI-12 January 3, 2019 Ted Lieu CA-33 January 3, 2019 Joe Neguse CO-02 January 3, 2021 House Democratic Junior Caucus Leadership Representative Colin Allred TX-32 January 3, 2021 House Democratic Freshman Class Leadership Representative Mondaire Jones NY-17 January 3, 2021 Co-Chairs, House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee Cheri Bustos IL-17 January 3, 2021 Barbara Lee CA-13 January 3, 2019 Eric Swalwell CA-15 January 3, 2017 House Democratic Senior Chief Deputy Whips G. K. Butterfield NC-01 January 3, 2021 Jan Schakowsky IL-09 January 3, 2019 Minority leadership (Republican)[edit source] Office Officer District Since House Minority Leader Chair, House Republican Steering Committee Kevin McCarthy CA-23 January 3, 2019Party leader since January 3, 2019 House Minority Whip Steve Scalise LA-01 January 3, 2019Party deputy since January 3, 2019 Chair, House Republican Conference Elise Stefanik NY-21 May 14, 2021 Vice Chair, House Republican Conference Mike Johnson LA-04 January 3, 2021 Secretary, House Republican Conference Rich Hudson NC-08 January 3, 2021 Chair, House Republican Policy Committee Gary Palmer AL-06 January 3, 2019 Chair, National Republican Congressional Committee Tom Emmer MN-06 January 3, 2019 House Republican Chief Deputy Whip Drew Ferguson GA-03 January 3, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 minute ago, ConservativeElector2 said: House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer MD-05 January 3, 2019Party deputy since January 3, 2003 House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn SC-06 January 3, 2019 Assistant Speaker of the House Katherine Clark MA-05 January 3, 2021 Chair, House Democratic Caucus Hakeem Jeffries NY-08 January 3, 2019 Vice Chair, House Democratic Caucus Pete Aguilar CA-31 January 3, 2021 Chair, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Sean Patrick Maloney NY-18 January 3, 2021 Co-Chairs, House Democratic Policy and Communications Committee Matt Cartwright PA-08 January 3, 2019 Debbie Dingell MI-12 January 3, 2019 Ted Lieu CA-33 January 3, 2019 Joe Neguse CO-02 January 3, 2021 House Democratic Junior Caucus Leadership Representative Colin Allred TX-32 January 3, 2021 House Democratic Freshman Class Leadership Representative Mondaire Jones NY-17 January 3, 2021 Co-Chairs, House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee Cheri Bustos IL-17 January 3, 2021 Barbara Lee CA-13 January 3, 2019 Eric Swalwell CA-15 January 3, 2017 House Democratic Senior Chief Deputy Whips G. K. Butterfield NC-01 January 3, 2021 Jan Schakowsky IL-09 January 3, 2019 Minority leadership (Republican)[edit source] Office Officer District Since House Minority Leader Chair, House Republican Steering Committee Kevin McCarthy CA-23 January 3, 2019Party leader since January 3, 2019 House Minority Whip Steve Scalise LA-01 January 3, 2019Party deputy since January 3, 2019 Chair, House Republican Conference Elise Stefanik NY-21 May 14, 2021 Vice Chair, House Republican Conference Mike Johnson LA-04 January 3, 2021 Secretary, House Republican Conference Rich Hudson NC-08 January 3, 2021 Chair, House Republican Policy Committee Gary Palmer AL-06 January 3, 2019 Chair, National Republican Congressional Committee Tom Emmer MN-06 January 3, 2019 House Republican Chief Deputy Whip Drew Ferguson GA-03 January 3, 2019 Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeElector2 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said: Thanks! You're welcome! I am sure you had that list as well, but just in case... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 The only issue is that Era of the Future isn’t completely fleshed out. So you might want to create some proposals and stuff. Events are fairly solid. Mainly I need more proposals. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hestia Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Want access as well 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodja Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Hestia said: Want access as well 😛 Me too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rodja said: Me too Me 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 @MrPotatoTed I created your draft tab for you, so you could draft when you have downtime on other things. Some things to keep in mind: Their stats are all rookie stats. I'd bump up the essential people to the min requirement for offices Some of the active people might belong to a different party, live in a different state, etc., at your start date. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted August 28, 2021 Author Share Posted August 28, 2021 2 hours ago, vcczar said: @MrPotatoTed I created your draft tab for you, so you could draft when you have downtime on other things. Some things to keep in mind: Their stats are all rookie stats. I'd bump up the essential people to the min requirement for offices Some of the active people might belong to a different party, live in a different state, etc., at your start date. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted August 29, 2021 Author Share Posted August 29, 2021 Just a quick update: I'm going through every statesman and getting them up to what I think their modern day stats would be -- just using a flat formula. Things like if they've been a rep or senator for 10 years, that's worth at least a 2 legislative. If they've been a committe chair, that's a 3. If they've been a whip or min/maj leader, that's a 4. Speaker is a 5. Similar formulas for the other skill levels. I'm also rolling a die, 50% chance that anyone who hasn't done anything notable in the past ten years (such as W Bush admin folks who haven't been heard from since) is deleted before the game starts. Trying to stave off the issues we had in the 2000 playthrough where a bunch of former Governors all collectively became governor again 20 years after the last time anyone had ever heard of them. Haha. I also plan to save this file after I'm done getting it ready, so I don't have to recreate it again for any future...well, future...playthroughs. I've completed 50 statesmen so far this morning. there's around 880 to go. Finally, one thing doing this has made me realize, @vcczar. If we do want the game to have multiple possible start dates, we likely need to create a "real world" version of the history tab, with all the real world politicians. It'll be tedious as hell, but maybe someone like @ConservativeElector2 or @Cal or anyone else might be willing to take that on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted August 29, 2021 Author Share Posted August 29, 2021 In fact, @Cal or @ConservativeElector2 or anyone else -- if you were willing to create the history tab with at least the real world 2020 politicians (the current senators, governors, secretaries) that alone would be helpful -- and if you're willing to work backwords into previous years (the governor before the current governor, etc) that would be even more helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said: Just a quick update: I'm going through every statesman and getting them up to what I think their modern day stats would be -- just using a flat formula. Things like if they've been a rep or senator for 10 years, that's worth at least a 2 legislative. If they've been a committe chair, that's a 3. If they've been a whip or min/maj leader, that's a 4. Speaker is a 5. Similar formulas for the other skill levels. I'm also rolling a die, 50% chance that anyone who hasn't done anything notable in the past ten years (such as W Bush admin folks who haven't been heard from since) is deleted before the game starts. Trying to stave off the issues we had in the 2000 playthrough where a bunch of former Governors all collectively became governor again 20 years after the last time anyone had ever heard of them. Haha. I also plan to save this file after I'm done getting it ready, so I don't have to recreate it again for any future...well, future...playthroughs. I've completed 50 statesmen so far this morning. there's around 880 to go. Finally, one thing doing this has made me realize, @vcczar. If we do want the game to have multiple possible start dates, we likely need to create a "real world" version of the history tab, with all the real world politicians. It'll be tedious as hell, but maybe someone like @ConservativeElector2 or @Cal or anyone else might be willing to take that on. I started one, just never finished it because I had other things that were priorities. Ideally, every politician would have stats for each start date but that's something WAAAAAAAAY down the road and only if this game is as successful as EU4 or CK2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted August 29, 2021 Author Share Posted August 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, vcczar said: I started one, just never finished it because I had other things that were priorities. Ideally, every politician would have stats for each start date but that's something WAAAAAAAAY down the road and only if this game is as successful as EU4 or CK2. Yep, agreed! But having a "real life history" tab would at least be a placeholder until then, if anyone's able to spend some time on putting it together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeElector2 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said: In fact, @Cal or @ConservativeElector2 or anyone else -- if you were willing to create the history tab with at least the real world 2020 politicians (the current senators, governors, secretaries) that alone would be helpful -- and if you're willing to work backwords into previous years (the governor before the current governor, etc) that would be even more helpful. Well, with currently two master thesis to write on and a new semester starting in October (mainly language courses in Japanese and political science stuff) I don't think the chance to contribute much on this is huge lol For a 2020 tab the prospect doesn't look that bad however. If either you or @vcczar provides me an editable history tab, I can fill in the 2020 guys rather quickly I guess. The good thing is that I know most current Governors and Senators without looking them up. Edited August 29, 2021 by ConservativeElector2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted August 29, 2021 Author Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 minute ago, ConservativeElector2 said: Well, with currently two master thesis to write on and a new semester starting in October (mainly language courses in Japanese and political science stuff) I don't think the chance to contribute much on this is huge lol For a 2020 tab the prospect doesn't look that bad however. If either you or @vcczar provides me an editable history tab, I can fill in the 2020 guys rather quickly I guess. The good thing is that I know most current Governors and Senators without looking them up. Perfect, I'll send you a link to the "future game" excel sheet, which has the history tab. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeElector2 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said: Perfect, I'll send you a link to the "future game" excel sheet, which has the history tab. Thank you! Yeah, I think it still says 17... . I am not sure whether I should start on the left or will you create placeholders for all years until 2020? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted August 29, 2021 Author Share Posted August 29, 2021 Yeah, the whole excel sheet is a work in progress as I transition it from the base game to the future game. Feel free to delete everything on the history tab and replace with 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeElector2 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said: Yeah, the whole excel sheet is a work in progress as I transition it from the base game to the future game. Feel free to delete everything on the history tab and replace with 2020. Ok. Usually I am hesitant to delete stuff, but ok 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted August 29, 2021 Author Share Posted August 29, 2021 More of a note to myself, but also another progress report: Just finished with politician 113 out of 907, Eugene Scalia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted August 30, 2021 Author Share Posted August 30, 2021 Progress report/reminder to myself: 181/897. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timur Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) Some of those state legislators, city councillors, mayors, etc. could be future politicians... Edited August 30, 2021 by Timur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted August 30, 2021 Author Share Posted August 30, 2021 7 hours ago, Timur said: Some of those state legislators, city councillors, mayors, etc. could be future politicians... I’m not sure I understood your comment...did you intend to include a link? Either way, the file does include some people like that, especially ones who recently ran for a significant office and lost but could try again in the near future. But of course it can’t and won’t have all state legislators, city councilors, etc. The 2020 file alone already has about 1,000 real politicians in it, and the game starts in 1774 so extrapolate from there. The data file of real politicians is just insanely enormous as is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timur Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said: I’m not sure I understood your comment...did you intend to include a link? Either way, the file does include some people like that, especially ones who recently ran for a significant office and lost but could try again in the near future. But of course it can’t and won’t have all state legislators, city councilors, etc. The 2020 file alone already has about 1,000 real politicians in it, and the game starts in 1774 so extrapolate from there. The data file of real politicians is just insanely enormous as is. I misworded my post. I meant that there are many current state legislators, city councillors, etc. who could be future politicians & could be options if you want to make future politicians... Edited August 30, 2021 by Timur 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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