Pringles Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, jvikings1 said: Considering you admit to toeing the “progressive” BLM, LGBT agendas, I’d say you have only confirmed the label. Being “for” free markets doesn’t help when you help prop up the marxists. Classic LP move I'd say his agenda is much better than a borderline, homophobic/racist one. 😐 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Patine said: Fun is relative. Playing Daniel Boone running for the second U.S. President for shits and giggles was fun, until @Zenobiyl and @Mishfox ruined it, at least for me. I'm not at all certain this scenario would be nearly as fun from my perspective, given the subject matter. I'm hoping, now that I've calmed down and can explain this, you can understand. Fair enough then. At the end of the day we may argue issues and what's important... but there's always worse I suppose... glad to see we see eye to eye on a recent post of mine at least. 😉 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timur Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Patine said: Fun is relative. Playing Daniel Boone running for the second U.S. President for shits and giggles was fun, until @Zenobiyl and @Mishfox ruined it, at least for me. I'm not at all certain this scenario would be nearly as fun from my perspective, given the subject matter. I'm hoping, now that I've calmed down and can explain this, you can understand. I admit, I might have sometimes gone too far in my jokes in the RPs by ConservativeElector. But yes, I hated the burning of Abigail Adams, STDs, AIDS, and bestiality (which crossed too many red lines, IMO). Also, I hated the unreasonable impeachment attempt on Alexander Hamilton. Edited July 24, 2021 by Timur 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobs Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 hours ago, jvikings1 said: Considering you admit to toeing the “progressive” BLM, LGBT agendas, I’d say you have only confirmed the label. Being “for” free markets doesn’t help when you help prop up the marxists. Classic LP move Yes, because favoring equal protection under the law is definitely NOT one of the major tenets of liberty and is in fact- Marxism! It seems that people who ick you out are marxists, I’d work on that. I don’t support BLM, I just happen to think that black lives do matter. And yes, I think gay people should have just as much liberty as straight people. The fact it seems you’d let your religion dictate where others liberty ends really does call into question just how invested in liberty your politics really are. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiw Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 I - does every topic have to devolve into a total flame war?! Oh my - GET ME OUT OF HERE! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Abortion C Allow careful legislation to further regulate late-term and partial-birth abortions. Keep Planned Parenthood. Business Policy CL: The business of America is business. But we need unions and laws to protect workers. China R America First! Use tariffs against China to get better trade deals, even if it risks a Trade War. Confront their territorial aggression in the South China Sea. Corruption C Washington, D.C. is corrupt. We need better oversight and reform. COVID-19 R: COVID-19 is something that can be solved with common sense. End the lockdown immediately and encourage social distancing. Masks don't do much and might make things worse. Economic health = health. Open all schools now. Sweden approached it the right way. Cuba CL: It is an unfortunate reality that Communism is here to stay. The sanctions are hurting the people of Cuban, more than they hurt the government, so we should lift them. D.C. Statehood CR: D.C should be absorbed by Virginia or Maryland if they desire representation in Congress. We need a constitutional amendment on this matter. Defense Spending L The armed forces are using too great a percentage of the budget. Cut budget while innovating. Economy L A recession is on the way, regular people are already hurting in this economy, while the 1% gets wealthier. Education CL Make teachers accountable with performance based pay. Increase funding. Remain open to options such as public charter schools. Reduce university tuition costs. Electoral Reform CL Expand the House in order to make both the Congress and the Electoral College more proportional. Overturn Citizens United which gives too much power to corporations. Automatic voter registration. Election Day a national holiday. Fight discriminatory voter ID laws. Statehood for Washington, D.C. Voter-verified paper audit trail. Energy C Balance renewables and fossil fuels, with the aim to move to energy sources that emit less CO2. Careful, limited expansion of off-shore drilling. Environment C Balance environmental policies with sound economic policies. Free Trade CL Protect workers over profits. Free trade must include labour and environmental conditions. Government Spending C Balance lowering the deficit with other priorities. No long-term deficits. Gun Control CR We should be wary of gun control. Increase security and training. The Second Amendment protects the right to bear arms. Healthcare CL Keep Obamacare - it is much better than what came before it. Consider expanding public coverage. Homeland Security L: If we were more respectful to other nations, they would respect us in return. Reduce security measures and funding. Dramatically decrease electronic surveillance of American citizens. Always require a warrant. Immigration R Trump is right - build a wall, deport gang members, tougher on illegal immigration, merit-based legal immigration. Israel Center: Support Israel's right to exist. Provide foreign aid and develop contingency plans to support them militarily. Keystone Pipeline CR: Get the Keystone Pipeline built as it will create jobs. Support in-progress pipeline projects. LGBT Rights C Defend all existing federal protections for LGBT. Prefer any future laws on the subject to be made by the states. Military Intervention CL For humanitarian causes or if we are attacked. Minimum Wage CR Be skeptical of minimum wage legislation, as it tends to cause the elimination of low-wage positions and reduce upward mobility. Native Americans Center: Native Americans didn't deserve to be treated like they were. That said, is this really the most important issue in the modern age? Native Hawaiians Center: The Akaka Bill must be considered by Congress in order to make right by our past. North Korea L We should deal with North Korea through the United Nations, and consider war only if we are attacked. Offshore Drilling C I just want oil prices low, keep existing oil rigs in place. Partisanship C The hyper-partisanship and failure of conversation this country is experiencing is very bad for the overall health of our nation, and we should try to remedy the issue as soon as possible! Puerto Rico CR The people of Puerto Rico should stay as a Commonwealth at least until there is a proper Referendum unlike previous years. Racial Injustice CR We must not demonize our brave police force or the Black community when talking about race in this country. We need to approach this issue with a mind of helping prevent racism on the personal level, without over-reaching government. Role of Government CL Government is not inherently a good or bad thing, but plays an important role in society. L Russia FL: Is Russia a threat to world peace? No, America is if we continue to use Russia as justification to intervene in countries, we have no reason to be in. Let the UN deal with it, and leave the scene. Russian Interference C There was certainly Russian interference in 2016, but it wasn't a major factor, and the Special Counsel established there isn't good evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia. Careful House oversight is fine. Russia is primarily a foe, not ally. Trump likes dictators like Putin too much, but he's not controlled by them. Social Security CR Let workers privately invest some of their retirement payments. Student Debt CR Remove current forgiveness policies, but consider national service or other work-based alternatives as a way for forgiving loans. Supreme Court Nominations R Replace existing justices with reliably conservative justices. The Constitution should be read according to original intent. Consider amendment to set Supreme Court at 9 Justices. Tax Rates CL Raise taxes on the rich, reduce taxes on the middle class, and reform the corporate tax system (eliminate loopholes). Trump Support CR Trump tends to get things right, but often goes overboard. Careful support of the Trump agenda. Unions CL Labor Unions provide job security and allow workers to collectively better themselves and be paid a fair wage. Venezuela L Lift sanctions on Venezuela immediately as they are hurting the people of Venezuela not Maduro. Wall Street CL Reinstate Glass-Steagle. War on Drugs L Legalize soft drugs, and consider the legalization of other drugs - decrease spending on Drug War. War on Terrorism C We must focus on terrorist cells, not Syria. Civil liberties are important. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Abortion L Keep abortion as it is presently. Safe, legal, and rare. Keep partial-birth abortion legal. Significantly increase funding to Planned Parenthood. Business Policy L: Businesses can exist, but government solutions where possible. China L Support a pro-labor tariff, but avoid any bellicose diplomacy that could exacerbate the problem. Take diplomatic steps with regard to human rights. Corruption C Washington, D.C. is corrupt. We need better oversight and reform. COVID-19 CL: COVID-19 is a major concern. Limited opening as conditions improve. Slowly open back up as conditions improve but listen to the science on the coronavirus. Coordinate with governors to achieve what is practically a national mask mandate. Cuba CL: It is an unfortunate reality that Communism is here to stay. The sanctions are hurting the people of Cuban, more than they hurt the government, so we should lift them. D.C. Statehood L: The people of D.C deserve representation in the House and the Senate! Defense Spending L The armed forces are using too great a percentage of the budget. Cut budget while innovating. Economy L A recession is on the way, regular people are already hurting in this economy, while the 1% gets wealthier. Education CL Make teachers accountable with performance based pay. Increase funding. Remain open to options such as public charter schools. Reduce university tuition costs. Electoral Reform L Get rid of the antiquated Electoral College with popular vote for President! Proportional House. Automatic voter registration. Overturn Citizen United and get corporate money out of politics. Energy L Global warming catastrophe will happen if we don't take massive action now! Green New Deal to transform the economy in 12 years - 100% of power through clean energy sources, overhaul transportation to zero-emission cars and rail! Absolutely no off-shore drilling, anywhere! Environment L The environment and global warming is a major concern. Return to Paris Accord, and then more. Increase environmental regulations and pollution cleanup. Free Trade CL Protect workers over profits. Free trade must include labour and environmental conditions. Government Spending L Increase government spending on social programs, a deficit is acceptable for longer term gain such as the Green New Deal. Gun Control CR We should be wary of gun control. Increase security and training. The Second Amendment protects the right to bear arms. Healthcare L Our healthcare system is broken, with the focus on insurers and drug companies making profits instead of Americans being healthy. Move towards single-payer, public healthcare, like it is in much of the rest of the first world. Homeland Security L: If we were more respectful to other nations, they would respect us in return. Reduce security measures and funding. Dramatically decrease electronic surveillance of American citizens. Always require a warrant. Immigration L Abolish ICE! Immigration is great! The more immigrants the better. Just require a criminal record check. Full blanket-amnesty. Israel CL: Support Israel's right to exist. Maintain good relations with our strongest ally. Provide financial assistance and weaponry. Keystone Pipeline L: Stop the construction of the Keystone Pipeline and the Dakota Access Pipeline and invest heavily in clean energy production. LGBT Rights L Pass more anti-discrimination laws for LGBT citizens. Celebrate accomplishments of the transgender community! Protect Transgender soldiers! Military Intervention CL For humanitarian causes or if we are attacked. Minimum Wage L Start by raising the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour, to ensure fairness. Then look at raising the minimum wage further in the future. Native Americans L: We should give Native Americans reparations, and maybe look into giving them representation in Congress. Native Hawaiians CL: The Akaka Bill will provide Native Hawaiians at least all the same federal benefits that Native Americans have. It is the right thing to do after we overthrew the Hawaiian Kingdom in 1893. North Korea L We should deal with North Korea through the United Nations, and consider war only if we are attacked. Offshore Drilling L Put an end to subsidies to Oil, make Oil companies pay for their damages because of offshore drilling! Partisanship CL Although we would like to be bi-partisan, the Right isn't exactly very welcoming. Puerto Rico CL The people of Puerto Rico support statehood. It is time to give them that. They deserve representation in the House and in the Senate. Racial Injustice FL Black Lives Matter! We need to end systemic racism, provide economic aid to the Black community, and properly punish cops for brutality! We need to take steps now to a more accepting nation! Role of Government CL Government is not inherently a good or bad thing, but plays an important role in society. Russia L The US needs to be putting its trust in the international community, and in working through the UN to control and penalize Russia. We can neither let Russia slide for its actions, or launch ourselves illegally onto the scene. Russian Interference CL Based on the Special Counsel's findings, it's time for the House to continue investigations - Trump is probably guilty of collusion and obstruction. Russia is a corrupt regime, and a major foe. Social Security L No to any private investment, dramatically increase funding. Student Debt L Forgive student loans after 10 years of income-based repayment. Pass legislation to make college affordable. Supreme Court Nominations CL Replace existing justices with liberal-leaning swing judges. Tax Rates L Make the tax system more progressive by increasing the marginal rate on the wealthy. Reform corporate tax system. Trump Support CL Continue investigations of Trump in the House, but be careful. Possible impeachment. Unions L Labor Unions are a worker's best protection against exploitation. Venezuela L Lift sanctions on Venezuela immediately as they are hurting the people of Venezuela not Maduro. Wall Street L Increase regulations on the financial sector. War on Drugs FL Legalize all drugs, except psychotics - end the expensive and unwinnable Drug War. War on Terrorism FL Terrorism will be reduced if we stop meddling in other country's affairs. Civil liberties are deeply important. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean F Kennedy Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) Healthcare : Left Immigration: center left Free Trade: Left Economy: Left Gun Control: center right Tax Rates: left Social Security: left Russian Interference : center War on Drug: center left Wall Street: left Corruption: center Trump Support: center left Unions: left War on Terror: center left Minimum Wage: center left Defense Spending: left Military Intervention: center left Role of Government: left North Korea: center left Government Spending: center Environment: left China: center Electoral Reform: Left Supreme Court: center left Abortion: center left Education: left Student Debt: center left Business Policy: Center left COVID-19: center Left Cuba: Center left DC Statehood: Left Homeland Security: Left Israel: Center Keystone Pipeline: Left Native Americans: Left Native Hawaiians: Center left Offshore Drilling: Center left Racial Injustice: Far left Russia Center left Venezuela Center left Puerto Rico: Left LGBT rights: left Edited July 25, 2021 by Sean F Kennedy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenobiyl Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) On 7/23/2021 at 1:34 AM, Timur said: @Beetlejuice @Cal @Cenzonico @ConservativeElector2 @DakotaHale @Dobs @Edouard @Entrecampos @Eugene @Fbarbarossa @Hestia @jnewt @JohnGRobertsJr @jvikings1 @kelley05v42774750 @Kitten @Magnus Rex @Mishfox @MrPotatoTed @NYRepublican @Patine @pFzCXDHANyh @pilight @Pringles @Rezi @Rodja @Sean F Kennedy @SilentLiberty @The Blood @themiddlepolitical @Timur @TZMB @vcczar @Wiw @WVProgressive @Zenobiyl@JB70 Where do you stand? Far Left? Far-Right? Center? Centre-Right? Left? Please let me know. (I might do an update on the Forum Scenario) In addition, where do you stand on these issues as well (or where is you stance closest to)? (Issue positions from @Kitten) Abortion FL Full reproductive rights for women! Only appoint pro-choice judges to Supreme Court and extend abortion rights! L Keep abortion as it is presently. Safe, legal, and rare. Keep partial-birth abortion legal. Significantly increase funding to Planned Parenthood. CL Protect responsible choice. Increase funding to Planned Parenthood. C Allow careful legislation to further regulate late-term and partial-birth abortions. Keep Planned Parenthood. CR Some restrictions on abortion. Allow abortions in cases of rape, incest, or life of the mother. Ban partial birth abortions. Defund Planned Parenthood. R Only allow abortion in cases where the mother's life is at risk. Ban partial-birth abortion. Overturn Roe vs. Wade and move it back to the states. Defund Planned Parenthood. FR Abortion is murder! Total ban on abortions including rape and incest. Planned Parenthood should be shut down completely. Business Policy FL: Corporations are evil. Socialism and guaranteed income for all! Government should attain complete control of businesses! L: Businesses can exist, but government solutions where possible. CL: The business of America is business. But we need unions and laws to protect workers. C: The interests of business, employees, and consumers need to be balanced. CR: Pro-growth business-friendly policies must be implemented. Unions get in the way. We need strong labor laws. R: Trickle-down economics rules. Reduce taxes and remove barriers to economic growth and wealth creation. FR: Business knows best. Government just gets in the way. No government involvement in business. China FL Free Tibet! Use the international community to compel China to adhere to human rights! L Support a pro-labor tariff, but avoid any bellicose diplomacy that could exacerbate the problem. Take diplomatic steps with regard to human rights. CL Our trade with China is fine. Focus more on human rights. C Find mutual diplomatic solutions to our ongoing issues with China. CR China's trade and monetary practices are worrying, but be very careful with actions that could lead to a Trade War. Project influence in the South China Sea to counter their actions. R America First! Use tariffs against China to get better trade deals, even if it risks a Trade War. Confront their territorial aggression in the South China Sea. FR China is America's #1 enemy! Slap heavy tariffs on China now, and rein in their military! Corruption FL Capitalism has corrupted our system! The system needs to be completely rebuilt. L The Republicans are completely corrupt. CL Republicans are more corrupt than Democrats. C Washington, D.C. is corrupt. We need better oversight and reform. CR The Democrats are more corrupt than the Republicans R The Democrats are completely corrupt. FR Socialism has corrupted our system! The system needs to be completely rebuilt. COVID-19 FL: COVID-19 is an international health crisis. We must stay locked down until there is a vaccine! Cede all decisions to health care experts. L: COVID-19 is a major health crisis! Lock-downs in hot spots are warranted to stop COVID-19. Limited opening as conditions improve. Federal mask mandate. Use opportunity to increase social spending. CL: COVID-19 is a major concern. Limited opening as conditions improve. Slowly open back up as conditions improve but listen to the science on the coronavirus. Coordinate with governors to achieve what is practically a national mask mandate. Center: COVID-19 is a concern. Cede control to the states, but encourage social distancing and continued lockdowns as needed. Continue opening schools carefully. CR: COVID-19 is blown out of proportion. End the lockdowns in phases and encourage social distancing. Have to look at societal health, not just the coronavirus. Lockdowns tend to hurt more than they help. Masks in certain situations. Open schools except in hot spots. Focus going forward on free market innovation for therapeutics and vaccines. R: COVID-19 is something that can be solved with common sense. End the lockdown immediately and encourage social distancing. Masks don't do much and might make things worse. Economic health = health. Open all schools now. Sweden approached it the right way. FR: COVID-19 is a hoax! This is a bio-weapon by China, and we were tricked into lock-downs to destroy our economy! Masks are just a way to control us. Open everything up now! Cuba FL: Viva Cuba! We should stop our imperialist ways, and adopt Socialism! L: We should lift the embargo, and work with the Cubans. Maybe we can learn something from Cuban Socialism. CL: It is an unfortunate reality that Communism is here to stay. The sanctions are hurting the people of Cuban, more than they hurt the government, so we should lift them. 😄 We should wait a few years, and see what Diaz-Canel does in office before we make any changes to our Cuba policy. CR: Only loosen the embargo if Cuba actually starts moving in the direction of Capitalism, and Democracy. R: Stand fast, and maintain the embargo. We must not capitulate, or compromise in the fight for democracy. FR: Invade Cuba, and liberate the people from the yoke of Communism! D.C. Statehood FL:Elevate D.C to statehood status immediately, and place the federal buildings under the State of Columbia's jurisdiction! No taxation without representation! L: The people of D.C deserve representation in the House and the Senate! CL: The people of D.C deserve at least representation in the House of Representatives. Centre: If the people of Washington, D.C. wish to pursue formal statehood, they will have that chance but no Senate seats. CR: D.C should be absorbed by Virginia or Maryland if they desire representation in Congress. We need a constitutional amendment on this matter. R: This is about expanding the Senate map to accommodate the most radical agenda of the Democratic Party! D.C statehood must be addressed by a constitutional amendment. FR: Statehood is a joke! The Radical Left just wants to ruin the Founding Father's vision of our nation's capital. It is unconstitutional and a Democratic power grab! It is time to remove D.C's electoral votes! Defense Spending FL Defense spending should be reduced so as to focus on other things. No overseas deployments L The armed forces are using too great a percentage of the budget. Cut budget while innovating. CL Reorganize the armed forces to deal with modern threats. Fewer ground troops, more drones and airstrikes. C The military is in a solid position right now but could use additional forces. CR The military needs additional funding, but not all future and current weapon systems are required. R The military requires a major expansion in capability to deal with potential conflicts with Russia, Iran, and China. FR The armed forces must be capable of fighting a multiple-front war including engaging with China. Economy FL We are about to enter a massive recession! The 1% is destroying the foundations of our country and the 99% are hurting! L A recession is on the way, regular people are already hurting in this economy, while the 1% gets wealthier. CL Obama created the conditions for strong economic growth, but Trump is about to blow it. Even so, the economy isn't doing well for many, and we need new leadership to get it working for everyone. C The economy is doing well, some of that credit is Obama's, some is Trump's. CR The economy is doing well, and Trump gets significant credit, but we should be wary of tariffs and protectionism. R The economy is doing extremely well - perhaps the best it has ever done - in large part because Trump is a master negotiator and with deregulation and tax cuts has created a dynamic environment for Americans to innovate and create. FR This is the best the economy has ever done, but Trump needs to be even stronger on negotiations, tariffs, deregulation, and tax cuts! Education FL Completely public school system run by the state. Massive increase to funding. Free university for everyone. L No school vouchers, large increase to federal funding. Modernize school system with more after-school programs. Reduce university tuition costs significantly. CL Make teachers accountable with performance based pay. Increase funding. Remain open to options such as public charter schools. Reduce university tuition costs. C Support public school system but allow room for vouchers. Modest reductions in university costs. CR School vouchers for lower-income students. Privatize failing schools. Charter schools provide competition. Emphasize trade schools. R Support school vouchers and charter schools. Reduce federal government's role in education. Significant emphasis on trade schools. FR School vouchers for anyone. Get the federal government out of education completely! All universities should be privatised, and no federal loans for tuition! Electoral Reform FL Power to the people - popular vote for President, proportional House, get rid of the Senate! Lower the voting age to 16, and allow non-citizens to vote! L Get rid of the antiquated Electoral College with popular vote for President! Proportional House. Automatic voter registration. Overturn Citizen United and get corporate money out of politics. CL Expand the House in order to make both the Congress and the Electoral College more proportional. Overturn Citizens United which gives too much power to corporations. Automatic voter registration. Election Day a national holiday. Fight discriminatory voter ID laws. Statehood for Washington, D.C. Voter-verified paper audit trail. C Gerrymandering reform, but no other dramatic changes to our electoral processes. Voter-verified paper audit trail. CR Tougher voter ID requirements. Open to gerrymandering reform at the state level. Citizens United was the right decision. Oppose the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact or any other scheme to abolish or distory the Electoral College. Voter-verified paper audit trail. R Keep the Electoral College, which protects from the tyranny of the majority. Strong voter ID laws are important safeguards on the integrity of elections! Citizens United restores free speech to the Republic. FR Democracy is too weak! We need a new monarchy! Energy FL Green New Deal isn't radical enough - we need massive restructuring of our society and economy right now to prevent collapse, not in 12 years! Renewable energy all the way! Ban all polluting forms of energy like oil and coal. L Global warming catastrophe will happen if we don't take massive action now! Green New Deal to transform the economy in 12 years - 100% of power through clean energy sources, overhaul transportation to zero-emission cars and rail! Absolutely no off-shore drilling, anywhere! CL 50% of electricity from clean energy sources within a decade. Subsidize renewables and end oil company subsidies. Cut oil use significantly by 2025. New legislation to limit off-shore drilling. C Balance renewables and fossil fuels, with the aim to move to energy sources that emit less CO2. Careful, limited expansion of off-shore drilling. CR Continue to reduce dependence on foreign sources of oil. Support the development of all forms of energy domestically, and let renewable energy sources come along largely by the free market. Address climate change through technological innovation. R Skepticism about aspects of global warming is warranted. Focus on encouraging clean coal, oil, and natural gas. Continue to move away from dependence on foreign energy. Encourage more drilling, including off-shore. Let free-market research other energy. FR We don't need to worry about renewable energy sources. Fossil fuels all the way! Climate change is a hoax! Environment FL The environment should be our first national priority. Paris Accord isn't nearly enough. Expand National Park System. Large government programs and regulations. L The environment and global warming is a major concern. Return to Paris Accord, and then more. Increase environmental regulations and pollution cleanup. CL We need to leave a healthy environment for our children. Work to reduce emissions and harmful toxins. Return to Paris Accord. C Balance environmental policies with sound economic policies. CR The environment is important. Find market based solutions to environmental problems. R Economic policies and priorities take precedence over environmental concerns, and strong economies lead to more money to solve environmental problems. FR The environment is fine. We don't need to worry about it. Free Trade FL Free trade just exploits the poor and is a form of neo-colonialism! L Any trade deals must include strong labour and environmental conditions. Protect local and foreign workers. CL Protect workers over profits. Free trade must include labour and environmental conditions. C Free-but-fair trade. Consider new free trade deals carefully, and create incentives to keep jobs in America. CR Free-but-fair trade, but with an emphasis on free. R Over the long run, free trade helps the U.S. and the world. Don't worry too much about reciprocal free trade, just get cheaper goods. FR There's no such thing as unfair free trade! Government Spending FL A deficit and debt is fine. Focus on social programs and how the government can better people's lives. L Increase government spending on social programs, a deficit is acceptable for longer term gain such as the Green New Deal. CL Focus on real priorities. More funds for military and social programs. C Balance lowering the deficit with other priorities. No long-term deficits. CR We need to curb spending in order to balance the budget. Respect taxpayers' dollars. R A large decrease in federal spending. A Balanced Budget Amendment to ensure responsible fiscal management. FR Deficit spending should be outlawed as overall government spending is reduced to minimal levels. Gun Control FL Ban all guns! L We need gun control! Ban certain guns. Require registration/background checks. Gun control protects children. CL The right to bear arms, but only responsibly! Ban assault rifles, require registration/background checks. C Responsible gun ownership is fine. Increase age limits to purchase guns, expand ability to seize guns from dangerous individuals. CR We should be wary of gun control. Increase security and training. The Second Amendment protects the right to bear arms. R Gun ownership is constitutionally protected. Allow people to fight back by getting rid of gun free zones. Increase security and training. FR The Second Amendment is not negotiable! No restrictions on firearms! Healthcare FL We need a completely public healthcare system! Publicly funded, universal healthcare insurance. Healthcare is a right! L Our healthcare system is broken, with the focus on insurers and drug companies making profits instead of Americans being healthy. Move towards single-payer, public healthcare, like it is in much of the rest of the first world. CL Keep Obamacare - it is much better than what came before it. Consider expanding public coverage. C Obamacare has problems, but seek to fix those problems through careful legislation. Oppose cuts to Medicare. CR Repeal and replace Obamacare. Keep provision on pre-existing conditions. Protect Medicare. R Obamacare is a disaster and unconstitutional - full repeal! Reduce spending on Medicare. FR Get government out of healthcare! Eliminate both Medicare and Medicaid, let charities help people instead. Homeland Security FL: We do not need to be concerned with homeland security. No infringement on civil liberties! Return home all U.S. troops! This is the worst form of tyranny and it violates the Constitution. End all warrantless activity and make warrants very difficult to obtain. L: If we were more respectful to other nations, they would respect us in return. Reduce security measures and funding. Dramatically decrease electronic surveillance of American citizens. Always require a warrant. CL: We must defend ourselves only if attacked. Increase some security, funding for natural disasters. Oppose Patriot Act. Government surveillance is needed. Require the government to obtain warrants in those cases. Center: Homeland security is a priority, balance between natural disaster relief and anti-terrorism. The government on occasion needs to wiretap or spy on its citizens to defend the U.S. against enemies. Require warrants. CR: Homeland security is an important priority. Focus on fighting terrorism but also provide disaster relief funding. Require warrants in most cases, but allow room for warrantless activity in exigent circumstances. R: Homeland security should be our #1 priority, regardless of terror alert level. Renew the Patriot Act. Maintaining American National Security often requires electronic surveillance and spying on our citizens. FR: Homeland security is foremost priority. Tighter airport surveillance. Patriot Act should be permanent. No need for warrants! Immigration FL No borders! L Immigration is great! The more immigrants the better. Just require a criminal record check. Full blanket-amnesty. CL Legal immigration is great. Zero-tolerance is immoral. Dreamers make our communities stronger - pass long-term legislation for DACA. Support guest-worker program for illegals and amnesty. C Enforce existing rules, no wall, path to normalization for most illegal immigrants already here. CR Open borders and open crime are not an option. Trump sometimes goes too far. Extend DACA. R Trump is right - build a wall, deport gang members, tougher on illegal immigration, merit-based legal immigration. FR Trump doesn't go far enough! Wall, deportations, dramatically reduced and merit-based (including English requirement) legal immigration levels. Otherwise, our country risks spinning apart. Israel FL: Demand Israel solve the Palestinian issue through a two-state solution and return to its 1967 borders. L: Encourage Israel to work towards a "grand bargain" with the Palestinians and hostile Arab states. A two-state solution is needed. CL: Support Israel's right to exist. Maintain good relations with our strongest ally. Provide financial assistance and weaponry. Center: Support Israel's right to exist. Provide foreign aid and develop contingency plans to support them militarily. CR: Along with military assistance through foreign aid, commit our military to come to Israel's defense as needed. R: Provide foreign aid as well as coordinating defense strategy between Israel and NATO. FR: Support Israel's right to exist through diplomacy. Avoid military entanglements as we have no vital interests there. Keystone Pipeline FL: We should completely scrap the all Pipelines! They damage sacred Native sites, pollutes and leads to water contamination. L: Stop the construction of the Keystone Pipeline and the Dakota Access Pipeline and invest heavily in clean energy production. CL: Cancel in-progress pipeline projects such as the Keystone Pipeline in order to reduce emissions and provide incentives for growth in other sectors. Center: Support the Keystone Pipeline, but halt construction of new pipelines. CR: Get the Keystone Pipeline built as it will create jobs. Support in-progress pipeline projects. R: Oil is our greatest economic asset and we should work to strengthen and expand the oil sector with new pipelines. FR: Pipelines and fossil fuel energy creates jobs for America! LGBT Rights FL The words 'male' and 'female' are tools of the patriarchy! Raise all children in gender-neutral environments and remove all gendered language from English! L Pass more anti-discrimination laws for LGBT citizens. Celebrate accomplishments of the transgender community! Protect Transgender soldiers! CL Protect gay rights. Push to globally decriminalize homosexuality. Consider more efforts toward protecting the rights of the transgender community. C Defend all existing federal protections for LGBT. Prefer any future laws on the subject to be made by the states. CR Marriage ought to be between a man and a woman, any further pro-homosexual legislation should be discouraged. No transgender athletes, no biological males in female bathrooms. R Support a constitutional ban on same-sex marriages. Transgender people have a mental disorder, and society shouldn't celebrate their behavior. FR Homosexual and transgender people need to be treated for their condition! Military Intervention FL Remove all U.S. troops from foreign soil. No intervention! Our military need never be used. L Intervening in other countries is another way of saying 'empire building.' CL For humanitarian causes or if we are attacked. C Only if we or our allies are attacked should we retaliate. Lean towards airstrikes only or drone warfare. War is okay to stop ethnic cleansing. CR We should intervene when our national interests are threatened. R We must never hesitate to defend America! Unilateral attacks are fine for national security purposes. FR We have the most powerful military in the world! We should exert our power across the globe. Minimum Wage FL A $15 minimum wage is not enough! We need a living wage of at least $20 an hour, adjusted for inflation each year! L Start by raising the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour, to ensure fairness. Then look at raising the minimum wage further in the future. CL Raise the federal minimum wage to $12 an hour, $15 over time. C Leave federal minimum wage where it is, but support state efforts to raise it CR Be skeptical of minimum wage legislation, as it tends to cause the elimination of low-wage positions and reduce upward mobility. R Minimum wage laws don't work very well. Lower the federal minimum wage, and trust the free market to generate high-paying jobs. FR Abolish the minimum wage! The free market will determine what the proper wages should be, no politicians in Washington! Native Americans FL: We should give the Native Tribes independence. It's the right thing to do after what our ancestors have done to them. L: We should give Native Americans reparations, and maybe look into giving them representation in Congress. CL: What we did to the Natives was awful. The government should do something to counter act the lingering side effects of our history of anti-Native policy. Center: Native Americans didn't deserve to be treated like they were. That said, is this really the most important issue in the modern age? CR: What we did to the Natives was terrible, but what can we do? It's in the past, too late to change it now. R: Indians need to get over it. How can something that happened hundreds of years ago still be negatively affecting them? FR: The Indians shouldn't have lost if they didn't want to be killed. To the victor go the spoils! Native Hawaiians FL: We oppose the Akaka bill because it blocks our attempts to establish our independence from the government. We need a sovereign Hawai'i!!! We must Ho'oponopono (to make right what is wrong and restore that which was lost or taken) the Overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawai'i in 1893. The Mainland has no right to meddle in the affairs of Hawai'i! Immediate independence for the islands! L: The Akaka Bill does not go far enough; Native Hawaiians need more than the federal benefits Native Americans have. CL: The Akaka Bill will provide Native Hawaiians at least all the same federal benefits that Native Americans have. It is the right thing to do after we overthrew the Hawaiian Kingdom in 1893. Center: The Akaka Bill must be considered by Congress in order to make right by our past. CR: The Akaka Bill must not be supported because the Constitution does not allow for a separate, sovereign, race-based government. R: By dividing government power along racial and ancestral lines, the Akaka Bill would represent a significant step backwards in American history and would create far greater problems than those it might purport to solve. FR: The Akaka Bill is unconstitutionally race-based and could begin the process of secession of a single racial group from the United States. Hawaii was legally annexed! North Korea FL Intervening in North Korea will lead only to millions of needless deaths. L We should deal with North Korea through the United Nations, and consider war only if we are attacked. CL Diplomacy and economic sanctions should make North Korea see things our way. War is not necessary, but no cozying up to dictators! C Keep diplomatic channels open and use economic sanctions. Go to war as a last resort. CR Exert diplomatic, economic, and military pressure on North Korea, while preparing to attack North Korea if needed to remove nuclear sites. A relationship with Kim Jong-Un is important to advance our goals. R We should launch a pre-emptive attack on North Korea and destroy all potential nuclear sites. FR North Korea has troubled us long enough! Launch a full-fledged attack and invade them. Offshore Drilling FL: Remove all instances of offshore drilling in America's domain immediately! L Put an end to subsidies to Oil, make Oil companies pay for their damages because of offshore drilling! CL Drop plans for expanding Offshore Drilling and get into alternative energy; like Nuclear, Solar and Ethanol. C I just want oil prices low, keep existing oil rigs in place. CR We need to use the resources we have, there is oil in our coast and we should make it available. R There's no better way to get gas cheaper than offshore drilling. Offshore drilling, if done right, will be an economic boon FR Drill and Drill offshore until there is nothing left! Partisanship FL: Everyone on the Right is stupid and should never be taken seriously. L The Right has made it clear that they don't want to work with us! We must return the favor. CL Although we would like to be bi-partisan, the Right isn't exactly very welcoming. C The hyper-partisanship and failure of conversation this country is experiencing is very bad for the overall health of our nation, and we should try to remedy the issue as soon as possible! CR Bi-partisanship is always welcome, but it becomes harder as the Left continues to radicalize. R The Radical Left has made it clear that they don't want to work with us! We must return the favor. FR The Radical Socialists have taken over and are infiltrating our great nation as we speak! We must be ruthless towards them no matter what! Puerto Rico FL: Puerto Rico should be free from the Yankee Imperialists! Vive Puerto Rico libre! Independence now! Our national identity is at state! Our language is at stake! L Puerto Rico should be a Free-Associated State. CL The people of Puerto Rico support statehood. It is time to give them that. They deserve representation in the House and in the Senate. C The people of Puerto Rico have the right to the political status of their choice, obtained through a fair, neutral, and democratic process of self-determination, wither it be statehood or independence. Congress should act upon their decision. CR The people of Puerto Rico should stay as a Commonwealth at least until there is a proper Referendum unlike previous years. R No to statehood as it could give Democrats four seats in the US Senate. Past referendums have not had enough voter turnout to establish a proper result. FR No to statehood! The United States would become responsible for Puerto Rico's financial troubles. Statehood will allow Democrats to pack the House and Senate! Racial Injustice FL Black Lives Matter! We need to end systemic racism, provide economic aid to the Black community, and properly punish cops for brutality! We need to take steps now to a more accepting nation! L We need to work to prevent police brutality, to bring about change in our institutions, and to properly address injustices in the Criminal Justice System. CL Our nation needs to address racial injustice by reforming the police force, by helping Black politicians and entrepreneurs succeed, and by addressing the need for social change in our society. C We need to open a discussion on race by bringing all sides, from BLM activists to police officers, to the table to work through the issues plaguing our nation through pragmatic means. CR We must not demonize our brave police force or the Black community when talking about race in this country. We need to approach this issue with a mind of helping prevent racism on the personal level, without over-reaching government. R We need to get the government out of the discussion on race, and accept that even as racism exists, it will always exist. You cannot regulate away racism with big government! FR Police brutality is a myth meant to protect law-breakers! We need our government to get out of racial issues, and let our people choose to be racist because you cannot outlaw opinions! Role of Government FL More government is always a good thing, and should be expanded into every part of a citizen's life. L Government is an activist force for good. CL Government is not inherently a good or bad thing, but plays an important role in society. C The Government needs to be more efficient, but is otherwise fine. CR Reduce the role Government plays and transfer power to the states. However, Government is not inherently good or bad. R The smaller and less activist the Government, the better the country. Local control when possible. FR Government can run the military, the police, and the courts - that's it. Russia FL: Is Russia a threat to world peace? No, America is if we continue to use Russia as justification to intervene in countries, we have no reason to be in. Let the UN deal with it, and leave the scene. L The US needs to be putting its trust in the international community, and in working through the UN to control and penalize Russia. We can neither let Russia slide for its actions, or launch ourselves illegally onto the scene. CL We need to take indirect action to control Russia, and to protect our allies. Use sanctions and rally allies, but make sure we do not throw ourselves into war. This can be solved without conflict. C Open a dialogue between ourselves, Russia, Europe, and the UN in an attempt to find pragmatic solutions to contain Russia. CR We need to rally NATO, and put troops on the ground to deter Russia. Work with our allies to create military deterrents against Russia, and use force if necessary. R Russia is a growing threat on the world stage! We need an influx of troops into Europe to form a clear wall against Russia, and we need all options on the table. FR Russia is a threat to the freedom of Europe! Get as many nuclear weapons, troops, and other military resources into Europe to force Russia to either go into a hopeless war or capitulate their aggression in Europe. Russian Interference FL Trump has committed treason and is controlled by Russia! The Special Counsel should have indicted Trump for his crimes, and now it's time for the House to impeach him immediately! Russia elected Trump! L The Special Counsel took too long, and should have investigated more aggressively - we need to stop Trump! Trump or members of his campaign are almost certainly guilty of collusion, so now its time for Trump to be impeached by the House. Trump's official actions vis a vis Russia border on treason. CL Based on the Special Counsel's findings, it's time for the House to continue investigations - Trump is probably guilty of collusion and obstruction. Russia is a corrupt regime, and a major foe. C There was certainly Russian interference in 2016, but it wasn't a major factor, and the Special Counsel established there isn't good evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia. Careful House oversight is fine. Russia is primarily a foe, not ally. Trump likes dictators like Putin too much, but he's not controlled by them. CR The Special Counsel did what they were supposed to do by indicting Russians for interference, and now we should move on. The House investigations are partisan politics. There's no evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia. Russia is the U.S.'s number one geopolitical opponent, but we should work with them where we can. R The Special Counsel was a witch hunt, and House investigations are a continuation of that. Russia interfered in 2016, both pro-Clinton and pro-Trump, but Russia always interferes. It is important for the U.S. to work with Russia where we can. We need to investigate how the Trump-Russia investigation happened in the first place, and whether Obama weaponized the intelligence community against a political opponent. FR The House investigations are a blatantly partisan continuation of the Special Counsel witch hunt by dirty cop Mueller. Russia's innocent - no way they interfered to help Trump! Putin is a model leader! Time to investigate collusion with Russia and Hillary Clinton-DNC. Social Security FL Socialism to provide for our elders! L No to any private investment, dramatically increase funding. CL No to any private investment, increase funding. C Allow a small amount of private investment but keep it regulated. CR Let workers privately invest some of their retirement payments. R Gradually scale down federal involvement and implement privatization of social security over time. FR Let workers privately invest all retirement payments. Social Security is a Ponzi scheme! Student Debt FL Forgive all student loans immediately. Pass legislation to make public colleges free or inexpensive. L Forgive student loans after 10 years of income-based repayment. Pass legislation to make college affordable. CL Forgive student debt after 20 years of income-based repayment. Work to make college affordable. C We have other important matters right now - keep things as they are, including income-based repayments. CR Remove current forgiveness policies, but consider national service or other work-based alternatives as a way for forgiving loans. R Students voluntarily took their loans - remove all forgiveness policies. FR Remove loan forgiveness policies. Support insurance agents in their desire to increase interest rates for profit. Supreme Court Nominations FL Replace existing justices with liberal activist justices. Expand the Supreme Court. Look more to International law than the Constitution. L Replace existing justices with reliably liberal judges. The Constitution is a living document. Consider expanding Supreme Co CL Replace existing justices with liberal-leaning swing judges. C Replace existing justices with swing judges. CR Replace existing justices with conservative-leaning swing judges. R Replace existing justices with reliably conservative justices. The Constitution should be read according to original intent. Consider amendment to set Supreme Court at 9 Justices. FR Replace existing justices with only strict constitutionalists. Tax Rates FL Raise income taxes in a highly progressive tax system. Eliminate corporate loopholes. L Make the tax system more progressive by increasing the marginal rate on the wealthy. Reform corporate tax system. CL Raise taxes on the rich, reduce taxes on the middle class, and reform the corporate tax system (eliminate loopholes). C Leave income tax as it is presently. Keep progressive taxes and remove small hidden taxes like marriage tax. CR Reduce corporate and income tax moderately. R Major tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations to spur economic growth via trickle-down. Look into flat tax. FR A single rate flat tax for citizens, and a very low tax rate for corporations. It works for the Baltic States. Trump Support FL Impeachment won't come soon enough - a coup d'etat is required to remove Trump right now! L Move towards impeachment or removal of Trump because of Russia collusion or possible financial crimes. Investigate Trump on every avenue possible. CL Continue investigations of Trump in the House, but be careful. Possible impeachment. C Trump needs healthy opposition from a strong Congress, but there are no grounds for impeachment right now. Only appropriate House investigations. CR Trump tends to get things right, but often goes overboard. Careful support of the Trump agenda. R Support Trump, MAGA, and KAG! Line-item veto for President. FR Trump doesn't go far enough! Unions FL Organized labor is essential to a worker's state and unions provide the source of our prosperity. L Labor Unions are a worker's best protection against exploitation. CL Labor Unions provide job security and allow workers to collectively better themselves and be paid a fair wage. C Labor demands must be balanced with business concerns. CR Unions are undermining our economy - support right to work legislation. R Unions are hindering our economic prosperity with their constant bickering. FR Unions should be outlawed. Venezuela FL: Vive Venezuela! We must spread their socialist movement here! L Lift sanctions on Venezuela immediately as they are hurting the people of Venezuela not Maduro. CL Gradually phase out Venezuelan sanctions until Maduro steps down. C Maintain sanctions until Maduro steps down. CR Maintain sanctions for the foreseeable future. R Total embargo of Venezuela. FR Launch a CIA backed coup against Maduro! Wall Street FL The Federal Reserve must stay, but it should be audited and heavily regulated. L Increase regulations on the financial sector. CL Reinstate Glass-Steagle. C The financial sector is fine as it is - bailouts may be necessary at times. CR We should decrease financial regulations, but hold Wall Street accountable. R Greatly decrease financial regulations. FR The Federal Reserve should be abolished! Wall Street should be audited. War on Drugs FL Legalize all drugs, except psychotics - end the expensive and unwinnable Drug War. L Legalize soft drugs, and consider the legalization of other drugs - decrease spending on Drug War. CL Encourage the legalization of marijuana. C Discourage marijuana legalization, except for medical reasons. CR Fight the legalization of marijuana, but leave medical marijuana to the states. R Increase funding for the War on Drugs, no legalization, and increase penalties. FR Major increase in funding for War on Drugs. Increase penalties. Punish cartels and countries harboring cartels. Actively crack down on even casual drug users. War on Terrorism FL Terrorism will be reduced if we stop meddling in other country's affairs. Civil liberties are deeply important. L We should develop an antiterror strategy with the United Nations to stop economic and social injustice. CL A renewed focus on multilateral foreign policy aimed at engaging terrorism as a police issue. Protect civil liberties. C We must focus on terrorist cells, not Syria. Civil liberties are important. CR We should not hesitate to use military force against terrorism. At home civil liberties must sometimes be sacrific R Terrorism can only be stopped with military force. Unilateral attacks are justified as are limitations on civil rights. FR Unilaterally attack countries suspected of supporting terrorists. Edited July 25, 2021 by Zenobiyl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cenzonico Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) * = Edited Abortion C*: Abortion is not an issue government should intrude on. Overturn Roe v Wade but set abortion with no restrictions. The states can set their laws as they see fit. Business Policy FR*: Business know their needs best. Government just gets in the way. No government involvement in business. China C Find mutual diplomatic solutions to our ongoing issues with China. Corruption C Washington, D.C. is corrupt. We need better oversight and reform. COVID-19 R*: COVID-19 is something that can be solved with common sense. End the lockdown immediately and let businesses decide on issues such as closure and social distancing. Open all schools now. Cuba CL: It is an unfortunate reality that Communism is here to stay. The sanctions are hurting the people of Cuban, more than they hurt the government, so we should lift them. D.C. Statehood C*: If the people of Washington, D.C. wish to pursue formal statehood, they should have that chance Defense Spending FL: Defense spending should be reduced so as to focus on other things. No overseas deployments Economy C The economy is doing well, some of that credit is Obama's, some is Trump's. Education FR*: School vouchers for anyone. Get the federal government out of education completely! No federal loans for tuition! Electoral Reform L*: Get rid of the antiquated Electoral College with RCV for President! Proportional House. Automatic voter registration. Overturn Citizen United and get corporate money out of politics. Work the end the Duopoly! Energy CR: Continue to reduce dependence on foreign sources of oil. Support the development of all forms of energy domestically, and let renewable energy sources come along largely by the free market. Address climate change through technological innovation. Environment CR: The environment is important. Find market based solutions to environmental problems. Free Trade C Free-but-fair trade. Consider new free trade deals carefully, and create incentives to keep jobs in America. Government Spending CR: We need to curb spending in order to balance the budget. Respect taxpayers' dollars. Gun Control FR: The Second Amendment is not negotiable! No restrictions on firearms! Healthcare FR*: We need a free-market healthcare! Eliminate both Medicare and Medicaid, cut the red tape and the bureaucracy that comes with Big Pharma. Homeland Security FL: We do not need to be concerned with homeland security. No infringement on civil liberties! Return home all U.S. troops! This is the worst form of tyranny and it violates the Constitution. End all warrantless activity and make warrants very difficult to obtain. Immigration FL*: Open Borders baby! Israel FR: Support Israel's right to exist through diplomacy. Avoid military entanglements as we have no vital interests there. Keystone Pipeline CR: Get the Keystone Pipeline built as it will create jobs. Support in-progress pipeline projects. LGBT Rights C*: Our existing federal protections for the LGBT community are enough. Prefer any future laws on the subject to be made by the states. Military Intervention FL: Remove all U.S. troops from foreign soil. No intervention! Our military need never be used. Minimum Wage FR*: Abolish the federal minimum wage! Let local cities/municipalities set the minimum wage as they see fit. Native Americans CR: What we did to the Natives was terrible, but what can we do? It's in the past, too late to change it now. Native Hawaiians R: By dividing government power along racial and ancestral lines, the Akaka Bill would represent a significant step backwards in American history and would create far greater problems than those it might purport to solve. North Korea FL: Intervening in North Korea will lead only to millions of needless deaths. Offshore Drilling CR*: We need to use the resources we have, there is oil in our coast and we should make it available. The push towards renewables by innovation will push this out anyway. Partisanship C The hyper-partisanship and failure of conversation this country is experiencing is very bad for the overall health of our nation, and we should try to remedy the issue as soon as possible! Puerto Rico C The people of Puerto Rico have the right to the political status of their choice, obtained through a fair, neutral, and democratic process of self-determination, wither it be statehood or independence. Congress should act upon their decision. Racial Injustice C We need to open a discussion on race by bringing all sides, from BLM activists to police officers, to the table to work through the issues plaguing our nation through pragmatic means. Role of Government FR: Government can run the military, the police, and the courts - that's it. Russia FL: Is Russia a threat to world peace? No, America is if we continue to use Russia as justification to intervene in countries, we have no reason to be in. Let the UN deal with it, and leave the scene. Russian Interference CR: The Special Counsel did what they were supposed to do by indicting Russians for interference, and now we should move on. The House investigations are partisan politics. There's no evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia. Russia is the U.S.'s number one geopolitical opponent, but we should work with them where we can. Social Security FR Let workers privately invest all retirement payments. Social Security is a Ponzi scheme! Student Debt R*: Students voluntarily took their loans - remove all forgiveness policies. Get the government out of this. Supreme Court Nominations C Replace existing justices with swing judges. Tax Rates FR: A single rate flat tax for citizens, and a very low tax rate for corporations. It works for the Baltic States. Trump Support. C Trump needs healthy opposition from a strong Congress, but there are no grounds for impeachment right now. Only appropriate House investigations. Unions C Labor demands must be balanced with business concerns. Venezuela L: Lift sanctions on Venezuela immediately as they are hurting the people of Venezuela not Maduro. Wall Street FR: The Federal Reserve should be abolished! Wall Street should be audited. War on Drugs FL*: Legalize all drugs. We must end the expensive and unwinnable Drug War. War on Terrorism FL: Terrorism will be reduced if we stopped meddling into other country's affairs. Civil liberties are deeply important. Edited July 24, 2021 by Cenzonico C: = Emoji 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitten Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Allow careful legislation to further regulate late-term and partial-birth abortions. Keep Planned Parenthood. Pro-growth business-friendly policies must be implemented. Unions get in the way. We need strong labor laws. China's trade and monetary practices are worrying, but be very careful with actions that could lead to a Trade War. Project influence in the South China Sea to counter their actions. Washington, D.C. is corrupt. We need better oversight and reform. COVID-19 is a concern. Cede control to the states, but encourage social distancing and continued lockdowns as needed. Continue opening schools carefully. Invade Cuba, and liberate the people from the yoke of Communism! D.C should be absorbed by Virginia or Maryland if they desire representation in Congress. We need a constitutional amendment on this matter. Reorganize the armed forces to deal with modern threats. Fewer ground troops, more drones and airstrikes. The economy is doing well, and Trump gets significant credit, but we should be wary of tariffs and protectionism. Support public school system but allow room for vouchers. Modest reductions in university costs. Gerrymandering reform, but no other dramatic changes to our electoral processes. Voter-verified paper audit trail. 50% of electricity from clean energy sources within a decade. Subsidize renewables and end oil company subsidies. Cut oil use significantly by 2025. New legislation to limit off-shore drilling. We need to leave a healthy environment for our children. Work to reduce emissions and harmful toxins. Return to Paris Accord. Over the long run, free trade helps the U.S. and the world. Don't worry too much about reciprocal free trade, just get cheaper goods. A large decrease in federal spending. A Balanced Budget Amendment to ensure responsible fiscal management. Responsible gun ownership is fine. Increase age limits to purchase guns, expand ability to seize guns from dangerous individuals. Obamacare has problems, but seek to fix those problems through careful legislation. Oppose cuts to Medicare. Homeland security is a priority, balance between natural disaster relief and anti-terrorism. The government on occasion needs to wiretap or spy on its citizens to defend the U.S. against enemies. Require warrants. Legal immigration is great. Zero-tolerance is immoral. Dreamers make our communities stronger - pass long-term legislation for DACA. Support guest-worker program for illegals and amnesty Along with military assistance through foreign aid, commit our military to come to Israel's defense as needed. Get the Keystone Pipeline built as it will create jobs. Support in-progress pipeline projects. Pass more anti-discrimination laws for LGBT citizens. Celebrate accomplishments of the transgender community! Protect Transgender soldiers! Only if we or our allies are attacked should we retaliate. Lean towards airstrikes only or drone warfare. War is okay to stop ethnic cleansing. Raise the federal minimum wage to $12 an hour, $15 over time. What we did to the Natives was awful. The government should do something to counter act the lingering side effects of our history of anti-Native policy. The Akaka Bill will provide Native Hawaiians at least all the same federal benefits that Native Americans have. It is the right thing to do after we overthrew the Hawaiian Kingdom in 1893. Keep diplomatic channels open and use economic sanctions. Go to war as a last resort. We need to use the resources we have, there is oil in our coast and we should make it available. The hyper-partisanship and failure of conversation this country is experiencing is very bad for the overall health of our nation, and we should try to remedy the issue as soon as possible! The people of Puerto Rico have the right to the political status of their choice, obtained through a fair, neutral, and democratic process of self-determination, wither it be statehood or independence. Congress should act upon their decision. We need to work to prevent police brutality, to bring about change in our institutions, and to properly address injustices in the Criminal Justice System The Government needs to be more efficient, but is otherwise fine. We need to rally NATO, and put troops on the ground to deter Russia. Work with our allies to create military deterrents against Russia, and use force if necessary. There was certainly Russian interference in 2016, but it wasn't a major factor, and the Special Counsel established there isn't good evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia. Careful House oversight is fine. Russia is primarily a foe, not ally. Trump likes dictators like Putin too much, but he's not controlled by them. Allow a small amount of private investment but keep it regulated. We have other important matters right now - keep things as they are, including income-based repayments Replace existing justices with swing judges. Raise taxes on the rich, reduce taxes on the middle class, and reform the corporate tax system (eliminate loopholes). Continue investigations of Trump in the House, but be careful. Possible impeachment. Labor demands must be balanced with business concerns. Launch a CIA backed coup against Maduro! The financial sector is fine as it is - bailouts may be necessary at times. Discourage marijuana legalization, except for medical reasons. We should not hesitate to use military force against terrorism. At home civil liberties must sometimes be sacrific 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitten Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 43 minutes ago, Kitten said: Allow careful legislation to further regulate late-term and partial-birth abortions. Keep Planned Parenthood. Pro-growth business-friendly policies must be implemented. Unions get in the way. We need strong labor laws. China's trade and monetary practices are worrying, but be very careful with actions that could lead to a Trade War. Project influence in the South China Sea to counter their actions. Washington, D.C. is corrupt. We need better oversight and reform. COVID-19 is a concern. Cede control to the states, but encourage social distancing and continued lockdowns as needed. Continue opening schools carefully. Invade Cuba, and liberate the people from the yoke of Communism! D.C should be absorbed by Virginia or Maryland if they desire representation in Congress. We need a constitutional amendment on this matter. Reorganize the armed forces to deal with modern threats. Fewer ground troops, more drones and airstrikes. The economy is doing well, and Trump gets significant credit, but we should be wary of tariffs and protectionism. Support public school system but allow room for vouchers. Modest reductions in university costs. Gerrymandering reform, but no other dramatic changes to our electoral processes. Voter-verified paper audit trail. 50% of electricity from clean energy sources within a decade. Subsidize renewables and end oil company subsidies. Cut oil use significantly by 2025. New legislation to limit off-shore drilling. We need to leave a healthy environment for our children. Work to reduce emissions and harmful toxins. Return to Paris Accord. Over the long run, free trade helps the U.S. and the world. Don't worry too much about reciprocal free trade, just get cheaper goods. A large decrease in federal spending. A Balanced Budget Amendment to ensure responsible fiscal management. Responsible gun ownership is fine. Increase age limits to purchase guns, expand ability to seize guns from dangerous individuals. Obamacare has problems, but seek to fix those problems through careful legislation. Oppose cuts to Medicare. Homeland security is a priority, balance between natural disaster relief and anti-terrorism. The government on occasion needs to wiretap or spy on its citizens to defend the U.S. against enemies. Require warrants. Legal immigration is great. Zero-tolerance is immoral. Dreamers make our communities stronger - pass long-term legislation for DACA. Support guest-worker program for illegals and amnesty Along with military assistance through foreign aid, commit our military to come to Israel's defense as needed. Get the Keystone Pipeline built as it will create jobs. Support in-progress pipeline projects. Pass more anti-discrimination laws for LGBT citizens. Celebrate accomplishments of the transgender community! Protect Transgender soldiers! Only if we or our allies are attacked should we retaliate. Lean towards airstrikes only or drone warfare. War is okay to stop ethnic cleansing. Raise the federal minimum wage to $12 an hour, $15 over time. What we did to the Natives was awful. The government should do something to counter act the lingering side effects of our history of anti-Native policy. The Akaka Bill will provide Native Hawaiians at least all the same federal benefits that Native Americans have. It is the right thing to do after we overthrew the Hawaiian Kingdom in 1893. Keep diplomatic channels open and use economic sanctions. Go to war as a last resort. We need to use the resources we have, there is oil in our coast and we should make it available. The hyper-partisanship and failure of conversation this country is experiencing is very bad for the overall health of our nation, and we should try to remedy the issue as soon as possible! The people of Puerto Rico have the right to the political status of their choice, obtained through a fair, neutral, and democratic process of self-determination, wither it be statehood or independence. Congress should act upon their decision. We need to work to prevent police brutality, to bring about change in our institutions, and to properly address injustices in the Criminal Justice System The Government needs to be more efficient, but is otherwise fine. We need to rally NATO, and put troops on the ground to deter Russia. Work with our allies to create military deterrents against Russia, and use force if necessary. There was certainly Russian interference in 2016, but it wasn't a major factor, and the Special Counsel established there isn't good evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia. Careful House oversight is fine. Russia is primarily a foe, not ally. Trump likes dictators like Putin too much, but he's not controlled by them. Allow a small amount of private investment but keep it regulated. We have other important matters right now - keep things as they are, including income-based repayments Replace existing justices with swing judges. Raise taxes on the rich, reduce taxes on the middle class, and reform the corporate tax system (eliminate loopholes). Continue investigations of Trump in the House, but be careful. Possible impeachment. Labor demands must be balanced with business concerns. Launch a CIA backed coup against Maduro! The financial sector is fine as it is - bailouts may be necessary at times. Discourage marijuana legalization, except for medical reasons. We should not hesitate to use military force against terrorism. At home civil liberties must sometimes be sacrific C abortion CR business CR china C corruption C covid FR Cuba CR D.C CL defense CR econ C education C electoral CL energy CL environment R free trade R Gov spending C guns C health C Homeland CL immigration CR Isreal CR Keystone L Lgbtq C Military intervention CL Minimum wage CLNative Americans CL Native Hawaiians R North Korea (wrote it wrong originally) CR Offshore drilling C Partisanship C Puerto Rico CL Racial C Role of government CR Russia C Russian interference C Social security C Student debt C Supreme Court CL Tax Rates CL Trump C Unions FR Venezuela C Wall Street C War on drugs CR Terrorism 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 I don't really like the descriptions of some of these. When I have more time I'll type up my descriptions, most of which would be Left, but would give allowances for viewpoints Center-Right to Far-Left to be heard. There's very little I'll give to Right and Far-Right, at least socially. I'm fairly tolerant economically and open to "limited government" solutions to push progressive agenda. I'm fairly strict on not going to war, except in the case of direct attack or humanitarian crisis. That is, I'm open to private industry in some situations. Basically, I'm an efficiency progressive domestically and a humanitarian abroad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timur Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Patine said: It's no wonder. I believe @Timur took them directly from Anthony's stances in his last iteration of the 2020 scenario - I thought it would be easiest to access. Also, some of these are from TheLiberalKitten's QFG scenario. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timur Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) If you hate Anthony's stances from his PI scenarios, these stances (satirical, by me) might make them look pretty good. Gun Control FL:Don't let people have the chance to defend themselves because we love criminals and want to increase crime! Ban all guns, knives, forks, spoons, chopsticks, and staplers! Ban water pistols and BB guns as well! Ban anything that can be or looks like a weapon -- that includes pencils! L:Ban all guns and bring in an Orwellian state. The Second Amendment is racist, sexist, etc. CL:Forcibly take away people's assault rifle. The Second Amendment is eighteenth century nonsense that we would like to be rid of in our modern, progressive age. C:Hey you can carry a gun, but I hope you don't carry that kind of gun (you know, the AR-15 and AK-47 type), and let me see if you are a criminal or a mentally-ill person. I have my interpretation, you have your interpretation of the Second Amendment. I'll have my way, and when you're in power you can have your way. CR:It's OK to carry a gun. The Constitution is obviously the greatest document in the universe. R:I have my rights to carry a gun! My Second Amendment right matters more than people's lives! It is so sacred, I will die for it! FR:The Second Amendmentis not negotiable! No restrictions on nuclear weapons! Give citizens full access to hydrogen bombs and create videos instructing patriotic citizens how to make 'em nukes. Edited July 25, 2021 by Timur 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hestia Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 It's for the express purpose of making a scenario. Of course it's not going to fit everyone's opinions perfectly. Thought that was pretty clear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dobs Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Patine said: @jvikings1 @ConservativeElector2 I must ask (probably again, several times) that both of you often quote, "Christian Conservative Values and Ideals," as part of the policies and platforms you advocate for, support, and push. So, please tell me, as you haven't really previously, where is the, "Christ," in "Christian Conservative Values and Ideals," - in terms of the Ministry, Message, and Doctrine of Christ, the Path to Salvation, how He enjoined his followers to live, to treat each other, and to treat other, His disregard and cautionary tales against the aquisition of wealth as a lifestyle and priority, but that wealth should be given to charity and good works, and His disregard for mortal government and law as a vehicle on the Path to Salvation, and that Life (ALL Life), Peace, Forgiveness, and Love are the Pillars of the Christian Religion? I see none of the Spirit and Tenor of the Teachings of Christ in the, "Christian Conservative Values and Ideals," that you and so many other nowadays peddle, only cynical, manipulative, exploitative, praying on the faithful disingenuously, using the label of being, "Christian," and the Lord's Name in vain for ulterior motives by wolves clothing amongst the flock, and those leading the rhetorical charge who are of the sort Christ referred to when He said, "better to have never been born at all than to lead these ones astray." Awww I wasn’t included 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnewt Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Abortion: FL Business: L China: L Corruption: FL COVID-19: L Cuba: L D.C. Statehood: L Defense Spending: FL Economy: L Education: L Electoral Reform: FL Energy: L Environment: L Free Trade: L Government Spending: FL Gun Control: L Healthcare: FL Homeland Security: L Immigration: L Israel: FL Keystone Pipeline: L LGBT Rights: L Military Intervention: L Minimum Wage: FL Native Americans: L Native Hawaiians: CL North Korea: FL Offshore Drilling: L Partisanship: CL Puerto Rico: C Racial Injustice: FL Role of Government: L Russia: L Russian Interference: L Social Security: L Student Debt: FL Supreme Court Nominations: L Tax Rates: FL Trump Support: L Unions: FL Venezuela: L Wall Street: FL War on Drugs: L War on Terrorism: FL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvikings1 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/24/2021 at 12:47 AM, Rezi said: What is the "LGBT Agenda" and what does it have to do with Marxism? A political and cultural movement designed to force their belief of sexuality onto those who disagree. Anyone who does disagree is cancelled and punished through various methods (including the use of government force to try and force compliance). And this is a part of the cultural maxism that has emerged recently, designed to tear down society and rebuild it in a new image (while crushing all dissent). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvikings1 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/24/2021 at 2:40 AM, Pringles said: I'd say his agenda is much better than a borderline, homophobic/racist one. 😐 Oh yes, the classic racist card, something that has been so overused as of recent that it basically means nothing anymore (even in real instances of racism). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvikings1 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/24/2021 at 3:23 AM, Dobs said: Yes, because favoring equal protection under the law is definitely NOT one of the major tenets of liberty and is in fact- Marxism! It seems that people who ick you out are marxists, I’d work on that. I don’t support BLM, I just happen to think that black lives do matter. And yes, I think gay people should have just as much liberty as straight people. The fact it seems you’d let your religion dictate where others liberty ends really does call into question just how invested in liberty your politics really are. One can support things such as criminal justice reform, ending qualified immunity, etc. without propping up marxist talking points. As Eric July splendidly points out, it is silly to suggest that one has to ally themselves with people on one day when they would be perfectly fine to tear you down the other 6 days of the week. Sure gays have personal liberty, but the concept of "gay rights" as a separate category is ridiculous. And I am against the state being involved in the institution of marriage (unconstitutional under the 1st Amendment; something the Supreme Court failed to recognize in its ridiculous Obergefell ruling). So, I don't know where you are coming from by saying that I want to deprive them of liberty. As long as people mind their own business and don't try to hurt me/my stuff, they are free to make their own life decisions. But, I will stand 100% against the attempt to have their view of sexuality forced upon others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvikings1 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/24/2021 at 3:31 AM, Patine said: "And we must always remember that God gives us Free Will to decide whether or not to follow His path, marking the validity of piety," The Rev. Rick Warren, in response to the Ugandan Anti-Homosexuality Law. Definitely to you, @jvikings1. I agree. People are free to make their own decisions as long as they don't violate the rights of others. I don't believe in the government sanctioning marriages (something that was not an option to select), so I prefer to allow people to love their free will on this issue. Though I am also free to disagree with their decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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