Murrman104 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 aye to all but idk why im even tagged since i have 0 senators lol . I vote aye to the general principle of them getting confirmed. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 10 hours ago, ebrk85 said: @Murrman104 @dkh64 @ShortKing @pman @DJBillyShakes @WVProgressive @10centjimmy @matthewyoung123 @Pringles Need confirmation votes on the following, the others have been automatically confirmed. Minister to the UK Samuel Otis Minister to Spain Tench Coxe Minister to Prussia Thomas Tucker General Andrew Jackson General Samuel Smith Aye to all but Andrew Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVProgressive Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 I have no senators, but if I did, I would be voting nay on all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted April 22, 2023 Author Share Posted April 22, 2023 @Murrman104 @dkh64 @ShortKing @pman @DJBillyShakes @WVProgressive @10centjimmy @matthewyoung123 @Pringles Confirmation Committee Votes Minister to the UK Samuel Otis Passes out of committee 5-3 Minister to Spain Tench Coxe Fails to get out of committee 4-4 Minister to Prussia Thomas Tucker Passes out of committee 5-3 General Andrew Jackson Fails to get out of committee 4-4 General Samuel Smith Fails to get out committee 4-4 Confirmation Senate Votes (Needs 20 votes) Minister to the UK Samuel Otis Fails 18-14 Minister to Prussia Thomas Tucker Confirmed 22-10 For Coxe failing: Majority Leader is blamed; Party Pref -1 Blue; Senators voting nay get controversial For Jackson failing: No one is blamed; Jackson having controversial is banned from cabinet (but can still be an ambassador or general) and receives a permanent -1 in future elections For Smith failing: Majority Leader is blamed; Party Pref -1 Blue; Senators voting nay get controversial; Smith having controversial is banned from cabinet (but can still be an ambassador or general) and receives a permanent -1 in future elections For Otis failing: President is blamed; Party Pref -1 Blue; Senators voting nay get Integrity Party Pref now Neutral @ShortKing PPT Abraham Baldwin will name five eligible politicians acceptable to them for any defeated nomination positions. These nominees must meet all requirements of the position. We need Minister to UK, Minister to Prussia and 2 Generals. @jnewt Once SK submits his lists you will pick a nominee from them that will be auto confirmed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murrman104 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 I recind my spirit vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted April 22, 2023 Author Share Posted April 22, 2023 You all trying to be bipartisan. Gave them 2 committee chair spots and they return the favor by sinking almost all your nominees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortKing Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Recommendations for General: John Twiggs John Page William Butler George Rogers Clark Robert Goodloe Harper Recommendations for Ministers: Paul Hamilton Alexander J Dallas James Sullivan Oliver Ellsworth William Loughton Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVProgressive Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 37 minutes ago, ebrk85 said: You all trying to be bipartisan. Gave them 2 committee chair spots and they return the favor by sinking almost all your nominees. Bipartisanship is nice, but it doesn’t win elections. What we did was necessary to secure the electoral future of our party, especially in an era so biased against us. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Just now, WVProgressive said: Bipartisanship is nice, but it doesn’t win elections. What we did was necessary to secure the electoral future of our party, especially in an era so biased against us. Welcome to Blue Hell. We must do what we can to reciprocate. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 How we’re they able to sink so many? I know Jackson had controversial but what about the rest of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted April 22, 2023 Author Share Posted April 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, pman said: How we’re they able to sink so many? I know Jackson had controversial but what about the rest of them? The Senate is almost a 50/50 split and you need 60% for cabinet. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 1 minute ago, ebrk85 said: The Senate is almost a 50/50 split and you need 60% for cabinet. That’s right , I forgot the nuclear is a recent development Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murrman104 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Pringles said: Welcome to Blue Hell. We must do what we can to reciprocate. Im going to be honest guys this map tells me you guys might not want to go scorched earth immediately lmao 1 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Temporary setback for our side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVProgressive Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 59 minutes ago, Murrman104 said: Im going to be honest guys this map tells me you guys might not want to go scorched earth immediately lmao If anything it shows that we need to scorch the Earth even more… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted April 23, 2023 Author Share Posted April 23, 2023 On 4/22/2023 at 7:07 PM, ShortKing said: Recommendations for General: John Page William Butler George Rogers Clark Robert Goodloe Harper Recommendations for Ministers: Paul Hamilton James Sullivan Oliver Ellsworth William Loughton Smith In case this got buried @jnewt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 On the plus side- I've ruined Andrew Jackson before the end of turn 1, so there's that. Well, the dice definitely helped and him being nominated to a position where he was obviously going to be voted down in, but still, not even 1 turn in and Andrew Jackson will never amount to anything in this timeline! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 I think I'll keep running Jackson and see how many times I can get him to lose. That permanent -1 should really help. I guess it's good I can't run with Dr. King, the dice would just ruin him for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnewt Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 38 minutes ago, ebrk85 said: In case this got buried @jnewt Hamilton for UK Sullivan for Spain William Butler and George Rogers Clark for Generals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted April 24, 2023 Author Share Posted April 24, 2023 Cabinet Scoring/Effects @dkh64 1100 @ShortKing 575 @Murrman104 525 @pman 100 @jnewt 50 Pres Jefferson receives 200pts for experience of cabinet Enthusiasm Changes: Mods +7 Blue (now Blue +3) Cons -1 Blue (now Red +2) James Madison and Robert Livingston +1 Admin (Madison is now a 5 Admin!) Treasury Sec Albert Gallatin loses obscure The Deep South is not represented in the Cabinet (or Cabinet-level), rolls 49/50 so Dom Stab drops by one. (now Periodic Protests) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted April 24, 2023 Author Share Posted April 24, 2023 2.4.1 Random Death/Retirement @Murrman104 Elias Boudinot (NJ) retires Samuel Bell (NH) dies at 30 of pneumonia @dkh64 None! @ShortKing Cyrus Griffin (VA) dies at 52 in a deadly accident @pman Sen Thomas Sumter (SC) will retire at the end of his term @jnewt William Maclay (PA) dies at 63 of yellow fever @DJBillyShakes None! @WVProgressive Edmund Pendleton (VT) retires Daniel Morgan (VA) retires Benjamin Bourne (RI) dies at 45 due to cholera @10centjimmy None! @matthewyoung123 None! @Pringles State Exec Career Tracker Thomas Veasey (MD) dies at 26 due to malaria 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted April 24, 2023 Author Share Posted April 24, 2023 2.4.2 General Events Party Switch President, over the course of the year we've lost @pman Charles Willing Byrd, @dkh64 William Wirt, @ShortKing Dudley Chase, and @jnewt Gabriel Holmes to the opposing party. We've now been informed that @Murrman104 Smith Thompson will also be joining the other party. This isn't looking good. We need to excite our party again. Byrd and Thompson join @matthewyoung123 Wirt joins @10centjimmy Chase and Holmes join @WVProgressive British Trade Tension Trade tension has been gradually escalating and has now resulted in a diplomatic war of words between diplomats of both nations. UK relations drop by 1 Scandalous Office Holder Did you see the news? Uriah Tracy resigned from his office almost as soon as the scandal was released to the press. At least Tracy had the integrity to admit fault and step aside. We're told that Tracy won't retire from politics, however, which renders them only fit for appointed office. @Pringles Sen Uriah Tracy of CT resigns his seat and receives a permanent -1 in future elections @Pringles Gov Trumbull, Jr to appoint a new Senator Random Military Personnel Gains Command There has been talk among politician of the possible presidential candidacy of one of our leading military officers @jnewt Admiral John Barry gains +1 Command (his 1st!) Lose Random Trait We may have misevaluated Mahlon Dickerson. @dkh64 Dickerson loses Egghead Random Ambassador Gains Command One of the nation's leading ambassadors is considering a presidential run. @dkh64 Minister to France Robert Livingston gains +1 Command (his 1st!) Random Politician with Puritan Gains Command One of the more ideologically stubborn politicians is talking about running for president to keep the nation within ideals best suited for the people. @10centjimmy Fisher Ames gains +1 Command (his 1st!) 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted April 24, 2023 Author Share Posted April 24, 2023 2.4.3 Scripted Events @Murrman104 @dkh64 @ShortKing @pman @jnewt @DJBillyShakes @WVProgressive @10centjimmy @Pringles The American Colonization Society Founds Liberia A bipartisan group, mostly composed of prominent Virginians and Kentuckians, have formed a society to encourage free blacks to migrate and develop land in West Africa to be named Liberia. The group does include some abolitionists or anti-slavery supporters. Some argue that black Americans would be safer and more prosperous in Africa. Some argue that this society will lead to the gradual emancipation of all slaves. Some argue that this society is necessary for the protection of slavery and will likely decrease rebellions. Liberia now a US Possession How will President Jefferson response? A: Endorse the society for its quasi-harmonious nature between slaveholders and anti-slavery members. B: Ignore making an official statement 😄 Oppose the philosophy of the society as it seems more like a ploy that will lead to the deportation of free black Americans @sk Sec Madison, @dkh Sec Gallatin and @pman Sec Smith can make a suggestion to the President After they make their suggestions @jnewt Pres Jefferson to make final decision. Son of Alexander Hamilton, Philip Hamilton, Killed in Duel Word has been received that Philip Hamilton, son of Alexander Hamilton, has been killed in a duel. Philip Hamilton will not be draftable when he would have turned 25. New Jersey State Legislature Abolishes Slavery New Jersey has finally abolished slavery. This state abolishes slavery and Politicians with RW Activist get +1 in the next election nationwide. Peru Declares Independence from Spain A state calling itself Peru has declared independence from the much-weakened Spanish Empire. This is great news. The more the Great Powers lose influence in our hemisphere, the greater we become. Bolivia Declares Independence from Spain A state calling itself Bolivia has declared independence from the much-weakened Spanish Empire. This is great news. The more the Great Powers lose influence in our hemisphere, the greater we become. Uruguay Declares Independence from Spain A state calling itself Uruguay has declared independence from the much-weakened Spanish Empire. This is great news. The more the Great Powers lose influence in our hemisphere, the greater we become. Argentina Declares Independence from Spain A state calling itself Argentina has declared independence from the much-weakened Spanish Empire. This is great news. The more the Great Powers lose influence in our hemisphere, the greater we become. Good Feelings We have reached a moment in which we have relative tranquility, both foreign and domestic. Even our politics are mostly harmonious. Let's enjoy it while we can. This may never come again. 100pts to President, Sec of Treasury, Wall Street, Big Corporations and Big Agriculture Rev/Bud meter +1 (now Underbudget) Econ Stab meter +2 (now Booming); Agriculture +1 nationwide NH has new leading industry of Agriculture, +1EV in next census Don Stab meter +2 (now Content) Party Pref +2 Blue (now Blue +1) EVERY ideology +1 Blue: LW Pop/Prog/Lib (now Blue +1) Mod/RW Pop already maxed Cons (now Red +1) Trad (now Blue +3) Ode to a Nightingale by Keats Former physician John Keats, a rising star among English poets, has been gaining attention for his odes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euri Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) No one's complaining about the dice anymore now, huh? That is one powerful event Edited April 24, 2023 by Euri 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortKing Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 10 hours ago, ebrk85 said: Liberia now a US Possession How will President Jefferson response? A: Endorse the society for its quasi-harmonious nature between slaveholders and anti-slavery members. Secretary Madison (a 5 admin, it should be noted) suggests this course of action for President Jefferson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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