Pringles Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, matthewyoung123 said: ACTION: Senator Allison seeks to gather support for the Residency Act from Congressman James-VA @ShortKing, Congressman Bull- NC @10centjimmy, Speaker Wilson-MA @Blockmon, Senator Lincoln-SC @The Blood, Governors Marlon-SC @Pringles and Dobb @Dobs, and also Treasury Secretary Kent @Bushwa777 and Vice-President Clark @Hestia. As the bill would ultimately go to President Gold's desk, Allison will not ask the President to take a position on the bill, one way or the other, but hopes he would see the benefit of the proposed legislation. He explains why the compromise will work in favor of the Federal government and that it will benefit BOTH regions of the county by consolidating debt and establishing a permanent Federal district for the nation to operate in. Governor Marlon gives a somewhat muted opposition to the bill in a letter to Senator Allison. Saying he admires the Senator's attempt to strive for fairness in benefiting both regions of the country, along with a Capital in the Upper South. However, Marlon disagrees with the principle that other states should be assuming each other's debt. Marlon will ultimately defer to the consensus of his political handlers that advise him on every issue. Edited June 2, 2023 by Pringles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVProgressive Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, matthewyoung123 said: So, Governor, you want not to empower the Federal government, yet you advocate for the seat of that government, which you seem opposed to, to be located in your state? I find this position to be somewhat contradictory. Manhattan is filled with bankers, and speculators; the South with aristocrats, and land-owning idlers. Philadelphia on the other hand is made up of people from every class, and creed in this land. The only way to ensure that the Federal government is reminded of the fact that they serve the people is by placing its seat in the people’s city. That is why I advocate for Philadelphia to be made the seat of the Federal government. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 ACTION: In other, more procedural matters, Sen Allison establishes committees in the Senate. They are Commerce & Finance, Foreign Relations, Judiciary, Military Affairs, and Public Lands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, WVProgressive said: Manhattan is filled with bankers, and speculators; the South with aristocrats, and land-owning idlers. Philadelphia on the other hand is made up of people from every class, and creed in this land. The only way to ensure that the Federal government is reminded of the fact that they serve the people is by placing its seat in the people’s city. That is why I advocate for Philadelphia to be made the seat of the Federal government. It's also the state capital of Pennsylvania, which would exert influence over the Federal government should it reside permanently in your state. No, sir. The capital needs to be in a position where a great government, and a great city, can be built upon it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobs Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 9 hours ago, OrangeP47 said: Virginia (905) – A representative from the District of Kentucky arrives at the Governor's office, one Mr. Raymond Earl (NPC). He intends to discuss Virginia's consent to the District becoming a State in it's own right, which as you know was given under the Articles, but a decision was made to postpone any action until once the new system of government was in place. He's here to hammer out any finer details of whatever arrangement is to be made, and seems to be a quite agreeable fellow. ACTION: Governor Dobb receives the emissary in Richmond, the finest capital in the United States, newly constructed from a design drawn up by Charles-Louis Clerisseau. Upon dining with Mr. Earl and inviting him for a tour of the State Legislature's chambers and the Governor's office, Governor Dobb invites Mr. Earl by the fireplace for a glass of Virginia whiskey. He has appreciated the ambassador's grace and agreeability, warmly beginning their conversation of business. The Governor explains that he is a man of principle, and that among these principles held dearest is that of self-determination. Virginia would be loathe to deprive the people of Kentucky of their own state government, but in order to make such an arrangement appealing to the Virginia General Assembly, the District of Kentucky must first make resolutions upon key issues which affect both Virginia and Kentucky, to ensure the mutual benefit of the sister soon-to-be states. Dobb explains that, as Mr. Earl knows, the issues of national financing, debt, and where to lay the national capital trouble the national mind, and that much benefit could be had in a Kentucky and Virginia who were aligned on these issues, in favor of no national debt assumption, no national bank, and a capital built on the banks of the might Potomac River. The Governor requests that Mr. Earl ensure allies of these principles are elected to the critical roles of Governor and United States Senators by the Kentucky Legislature, naming several of the Governor's influential allies in the District who would fit the bill. If the District Legislature can secure these names, the Governor will draft a Resolution of Support to be ratified by the Virginia General Assembly and sent to Congress for the partition of the new state. Of course, the Governor will also expect his colleagues in Kentucky to be brothers and sisters with Virginia in commerce, allaying any concern that a bid for Kentucky statehood is nothing but a ploy to run to the arms of Spain down the Mississippi. Mr. Earl is a patriot, as are most Kentuckians, they must ensure that rabble-rousing Spaniard-sympathizers like General Wilkinson do not take power in this prospective 15th state. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobs Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 46 minutes ago, matthewyoung123 said: ACTION: Senator Allison seeks to gather support for the Residency Act from Congressman James-VA @ShortKing, Congressman Bull- NC @10centjimmy, Speaker Wilson-MA @Blockmon, Senator Lincoln-SC @The Blood, Governors Marlon-SC @Pringles and Dobb @Dobs, and also Treasury Secretary Kent @Bushwa777 and Vice-President Clark @Hestia. As the bill would ultimately go to President Gold's desk, Allison will not ask the President to take a position on the bill, one way or the other, but hopes he would see the benefit of the proposed legislation. He explains why the compromise will work in favor of the Federal government and that it will benefit BOTH regions of the county by consolidating debt and establishing a permanent Federal district for the nation to operate in. Governor Dobb, in writing to Senator Allison, explains that Richmond is furious over the Residency Act. @matthewyoung123 Dear Henry, You are an honorable man and friend, but you must know that Virginians are loathe to pay the debts of New York speculators and Boston fishlords. The House of Delegates erupted in furious debate regarding your tenure in the Senate these past three days as they discuss the Residency Act, as it has been termed. I have been and continue to be active in your defense, drawing attention to the magnificent proposal of a new federal city on the banks of the Potomac. This, no doubt, is a great national compromise and shall be remembered as such. But our legislators, many of whom are planters themselves, cannot be expected in good conscience to federalize their wealth to pick up the tab of Northern money-movers and the physical location of a national capitol can only move the heart of man so much when his purse is threatened. Admittedly, there is grave pressure on my office to publically oppose this legislation and encourage our representatives in the House, even your seatmate in the Senate, to give their official opposition. I cannot countenance this debt scheme, but even more, I cannot countenance it taking down an honorable man and patriot. We must come to happy resolution in Virginia before she can propose such legislation to the Congress. Please, Senator, come to Richmond, I fear this Residency Act, whatever its fate, has endangered yours. Your Obedient, T. Dobb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Action: Governor Marlon via executive order will declare a capture or kill bounty on all known Cherokee Indian leaders and male adults in the State of South Carolina. Another initiative to hopefully rile up populace, especially the “Mountain Men” who live in the wilderness. Any man that collects his reward can choose between a cash sum or a plot of land as the South Carolina Militia continues to venture further up the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 ACTION: Despite growing pains in the national legislature, Governor Hawkins could not spend all his time yelling away in New York City. He would take his leave and return back to the state legislature, where he had some plans of his own that needed enacting. Hawkins would propose to the New York legislature plans for the development of settlements along the Hudson river. Kingston, Poughkeepsie, Hudson, and Albany would all see significant developments to their ports and city centers, being treated almost as coastal cities by the state government. As these developments succeed and these settlements improve, so would the reputation and influence of New York State alongside it. New York City was already the nation's leading port, and being able to transport goods up the Hudson quickly and efficiently would make the state key towards the development of the nation's north. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortKing Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, matthewyoung123 said: ACTION: Senator Allison seeks to gather support for the Residency Act from Congressman James-VA @ShortKing, Congressman Bull- NC @10centjimmy, Speaker Wilson-MA @Blockmon, Senator Lincoln-SC @The Blood, Governors Marlon-SC @Pringles and Dobb @Dobs, and also Treasury Secretary Kent @Bushwa777 and Vice-President Clark @Hestia. As the bill would ultimately go to President Gold's desk, Allison will not ask the President to take a position on the bill, one way or the other, but hopes he would see the benefit of the proposed legislation. He explains why the compromise will work in favor of the Federal government and that it will benefit BOTH regions of the county by consolidating debt and establishing a permanent Federal district for the nation to operate in. ACTION: Congressman James will support the bill offered by the President Pro Tempore of the Senate. Edited June 2, 2023 by ShortKing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperator Taco Cat Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) (hopefully this works with the rules)The presidents allies in congress (anyone if they wants, npc if not) will propose the following amendments to the constitution (stuff in parenthesis are not part of amendment): ACTION First proposed amendment: After the first enumeration required by the first article of the Constitution, there shall be one Representative for every thirty thousand, until the number shall amount to one hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall be not less than one hundred Representatives, nor less than one Representative for every forty thousand persons, until the number of Representatives shall amount to two hundred; after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than two hundred Representatives, nor more than one Representative for every two hundred thousand persons. (historical, failed) ACTION Second proposed amendment: No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened. (historical, delayed until the 1990s) ACTION Third proposed amendment: Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of any religion; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. ACTION Fourth proposed amendment: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. (historical) ACTION Fifth proposed amendment: No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, but in a manner to be prescribed by law. ACTION Sixth proposed amendment: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. (historical) ACTION Seventh proposed amendment: No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. (historical) ACTION Eighth proposed amendment: In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence. (historical) ACTION Ninth proposed amendment: In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law. (historical) ACTION Tenth proposed amendment: Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel punishments inflicted. (historical) ACTION Eleventh proposed amendment: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. (historical) ACTION Twelfth proposed amendment:The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (historical) ACTION Thirteenth proposed amendment: No State government, nor the United States government may prevent citizens (white people) from voting based off of wealth or property. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ACTION: Benjamin Gold will endorse/campaign for the following laws: Judiciary Act of 1789, Compromise Tariff of 1789, The Residence Act and the The Defense and Naval Enhancement Act, should the tariff raises pay for it (requirement only for the last one). --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ACTION: President Gold will denounce the massacre of the Cherokee, insisting that the five civilized tribes can be reasoned with, and that negotiations must be attempted before sutch brazen action is to be taken. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gold will request congress set aside 80% of surplus funds to build roads, bridges and the sutch. 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ShortKing Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Imperator Taco Cat said: ACTION Third proposed amendment: Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of any religion; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. (historical) ACTION Third proposed amendment: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. (historical) ACTION Third proposed amendment: No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, but in a manner to be prescribed by law. (historical) ACTION Third proposed amendment: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. (historical) ACTION Third proposed amendment: No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. (historical) ACTION Third proposed amendment: In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence. (historical) ACTION Third proposed amendment: In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law. (historical) ACTION Third proposed amendment: Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel punishments inflicted. (historical) ACTION Third proposed amendment: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. (historical) ACTION Third proposed amendment:The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (historical) ACTION Third proposed amendment: No State government, nor the United States government may prevent citizens (white people) from voting based off of wealth or property. Damn the Third Amendment about to be its own Constitution 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Imperator Taco Cat said: (hopefully this works with the rules)The presidents allies in congress (anyone if they wants, npc if not) will propose the following amendments to the constitution (stuff in parenthesis are not part of amendment): ACTION First proposed amendment: After the first enumeration required by the first article of the Constitution, there shall be one Representative for every thirty thousand, until the number shall amount to one hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall be not less than one hundred Representatives, nor less than one Representative for every forty thousand persons, until the number of Representatives shall amount to two hundred; after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than two hundred Representatives, nor more than one Representative for every two hundred thousand persons. (historical, failed) ACTION Second proposed amendment: No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened. (historical, delayed until the 90s) ACTION Third proposed amendment: Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of any religion; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. (historical) ACTION Fourth proposed amendment: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. (historical) ACTION Fifth proposed amendment: No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, but in a manner to be prescribed by law. (historical) ACTION Sixth proposed amendment: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. (historical) ACTION Seventh proposed amendment: No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. (historical) ACTION Eighth proposed amendment: In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence. (historical) ACTION Ninth proposed amendment: In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law. (historical) ACTION Tenth proposed amendment: Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel punishments inflicted. (historical) ACTION Eleventh proposed amendment: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. (historical) ACTION Twelfth proposed amendment:The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (historical) ACTION Thirteenth proposed amendment: No State government, nor the United States government may prevent citizens (white people) from voting based off of wealth or property. ACTION: Governor Hawkins will implore the New York delegation to support amendments three through twelve (real bill of rights), vote against amendment thirteen, and he will not whip on amendments one or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 @OrangeP47 Can we get a GA ruling here? Several things, like Sec of State, War, Treasury weren't really created until later on in the 1789 session of Congress yet they are filled with players already. Can we just say the 1st 10 amendments have been approved as well or do you want to reset the players who are secretaries since they wouldn't exist yet? Thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperator Taco Cat Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Just now, matthewyoung123 said: Several things, like Sec of State, War, Treasury weren't really created until later on in the 1789 session of Congress yet they are filled with players already. How about they are just my trusted advisors until the proper positions exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperator Taco Cat Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Because of this I, President Benjamin Gold, call upon congress to pass Act of Congress Establishing the Treasury Department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 3 hours ago, matthewyoung123 said: ACTION: Senator Allison seeks to gather support for the Residency Act from Congressman James-VA @ShortKing, Congressman Bull- NC @10centjimmy, Speaker Wilson-MA @Blockmon, Senator Lincoln-SC @The Blood, Governors Marlon-SC @Pringles and Dobb @Dobs, and also Treasury Secretary Kent @Bushwa777 and Vice-President Clark @Hestia. ACTION: Senator Lincoln will under no circumstances encumber the South with the debts of the North. Rather, he will propose a counter-bill to the Residence Act, titled the "Real Residence Act," naming it such as it includes only a proposal for a select committee to choose the location of a Federal capital located in Maryland, Virginia, or North Carolina, unsullied by the ridiculous suggestion that states are not responsible for their own debts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 I took a nap due to my cold and am eating dinner, but addressing some concerns: The existing cabinet I'm having representing carrying over the confederation cabinet ala AMPU, though it's not the most historically accurate thing, but it meant War, State, Tres were here, it was for convenience sake. I think i saw someone else ask why the bill of rights are being proposed if they are already part of the constitution. They actually aren't already part, they were part of this congress (and would have been an event later, but you can do so now), so that's valid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperator Taco Cat Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) ACTION: President Gold will go on a hour-long rant about how Gov. Hawkins of New York is an enemy of people and democracy, in this speech he will cite a supposed correspondence between himself and the governor, some snippets thereof: 9 minutes ago, Rezi said: I will seek an expansion of voting rights in my own state eventually, just need a bit of national stabilization first. No such undertaking has been attempted, in spite of general national stability. 24 minutes ago, Rezi said: 13 is an infringement on states' rights. A STATES RIGHT TO DO WHAT?! A STATES RIGHT TO OPPRESS THE PEOPLE!? And the most memorable point in the speech will be the quip: I support the people's rights, not Gov. Hawkins. Edited June 2, 2023 by Imperator Taco Cat posted mid typing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Imperator Taco Cat said: ACTION: President Gold will go on a hour-long rant about how Gov. Hawkins of New York is an enemy of people and democracy, in this speech he will cite a supposed correspondence between himself and the governor, some snippets thereof: No such undertaking has been attempted, in spite of general national stability. A STATES RIGHT TO DO WHAT?! A STATES RIGHT TO OPPRESS THE PEOPLE!? And the most memorable point in the speech will be the quip: I support the people's rights, not Gov. Hawkins. ACTION: Gov Hawkins will respond by citing a line he said during correspondences: Quote "I do know that you are a good New England man, however, so I know that you mean well on this issue." "I was simply having a productive conversation with the President after supporting some of his agenda, and left him with my compliments. However, he has decided to try and turn this around and subsequently lose the respect that I had for him, for a reason that I have yet to comprehend. I did not know the President was willing to stoop to this level. I will speak no further, and urge the President to refrain from such classless behavior in the future." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperator Taco Cat Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Still, you've revealed your true colours as an enemy of liberty and democracy for all, an enemy of accountability of Government, an enemy of the rule of law, an enemy of opposition to ALL abuses, atrocities, and crimes of state by ANY Government, an enemy of you Republic, Constitution, nation, and the principles it was founded, and - yes - an EXTREMIST because of this, I will now treat you as what you have unveiled yourself, here to be, in debate, and I enjoin everyone else on this country who has any sense of reason, ethics, justice, and moral fibre, to do the same. You have just outed yourself as the unhinged extremist trying, in vain, to do it to me - because ONLY an unhinged extremist would possibly support the ideals you've admitted to -- and all the monstrous consequences that come of it - as being not only acceptable, but right... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVProgressive Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Imperator Taco Cat said: ACTION: President Gold will go on a hour-long rant about how Gov. Hawkins of New York is an enemy of people and democracy, in this speech he will cite a supposed correspondence between himself and the governor, some snippets thereof: No such undertaking has been attempted, in spite of general national stability. A STATES RIGHT TO DO WHAT?! A STATES RIGHT TO OPPRESS THE PEOPLE!? And the most memorable point in the speech will be the quip: I support the people's rights, not Gov. Hawkins. President Gold sullies the office he holds as he makes it clear that he is nothing more than a partisan hack wearing the clothes of a respectable politician. This country was founded upon a precious balance between Individual Liberties, States Rights, and Federal Power, something that the so-called-President seems to have forgotten. This shows why it is deathly important that men dedicated to liberty band together in defense of our fragile republic, lest we allow our revolution to fall to despotism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euri Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 This better not be public Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 1 minute ago, WVProgressive said: President Gold sullies the office he holds as he makes it clear that he is nothing more than a partisan hack wearing the clothes of a respectable politician. This country was founded upon a precious balance between Individual Liberties, States Rights, and Federal Power, something that the so-called-President seems to have forgotten. This shows why it is deathly important that men dedicated to liberty band together in defense of our fragile republic, lest we allow our revolution to fall to despotism. Gold was Stone all along. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushwa777 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, Imperator Taco Cat said: Still, you've revealed your true colours as an enemy of liberty and democracy for all, an enemy of accountability of Government, an enemy of the rule of law, an enemy of opposition to ALL abuses, atrocities, and crimes of state by ANY Government, an enemy of you Republic, Constitution, nation, and the principles it was founded, and - yes - an EXTREMIST because of this, I will now treat you as what you have unveiled yourself, here to be, in debate, and I enjoin everyone else on this country who has any sense of reason, ethics, justice, and moral fibre, to do the same. You have just outed yourself as the unhinged extremist trying, in vain, to do it to me - because ONLY an unhinged extremist would possibly support the ideals you've admitted to -- and all the monstrous consequences that come of it - as being not only acceptable, but right... This phase needs retired 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: Gold was Stone all along. Really? I thought it was a mineral. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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