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3 hours ago, Rodja said:

Any way to join this now? @Pringles

 

38 minutes ago, Timur said:

Yes, I would be interested in joining as well.

Sure! I've got a busy day and wont have much time until tonight. But yes there are quite a few spots open. 

Major spots being:

Unionist Parties of Ireland

Monster Raving Loonies as Timur said haha. 

@Rodja And for you, since I know you'd want a nice left wing role, Cal is technically the player of the Labour Party and leads the Soft Left faction. Hes been a little busy lately and once he gets back with me I can give you that role.

You'd control people such as Gordon Brown. Prime example of Soft Left.

With that said, if there is another third party you want simply name it and I can look into it! 🙂

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The Official Monster Raving Loony Party have a party in which they discuss creating a Frivolous Fraud Office to investigate any fraud to silly to be investigated by the Serious Fraud Office.

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16 minutes ago, Pringles said:

 

Sure! I've got a busy day and wont have much time until tonight. But yes there are quite a few spots open. 

Major spots being:

Unionist Parties of Ireland

Monster Raving Loonies as Timur said haha. 

@Rodja And for you, since I know you'd want a nice left wing role, Cal is technically the player of the Labour Party and leads the Soft Left faction. Hes been a little busy lately and once he gets back with me I can give you that role.

You'd control people such as Gordon Brown. Prime example of Soft Left.

With that said, if there is another third party you want simply name it and I can look into it! 🙂

I'd prefer taking over Soft Left if available.Not my favorite option,i'd prefer someone more left like Corbyn or Benn but Gordon Brown is ok.Can you or someone else just help me get through the basics ?

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32 minutes ago, Pringles said:

 

Sure! I've got a busy day and wont have much time until tonight. But yes there are quite a few spots open. 

Major spots being:

Unionist Parties of Ireland

Monster Raving Loonies as Timur said haha. 

@Rodja And for you, since I know you'd want a nice left wing role, Cal is technically the player of the Labour Party and leads the Soft Left faction. Hes been a little busy lately and once he gets back with me I can give you that role.

You'd control people such as Gordon Brown. Prime example of Soft Left.

With that said, if there is another third party you want simply name it and I can look into it! 🙂

Would somebody have to control all the Unionist Parties of NI, or can I just go with the DUP?

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31 minutes ago, Timur said:

Would somebody have to control all the Unionist Parties of NI, or can I just go with the DUP?

Just DUP would probably work 😛 we have the SDLP and Sinn Fein independently played by different players

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51 minutes ago, Timur said:

Would somebody have to control all the Unionist Parties of NI, or can I just go with the DUP?

You can just go with the DUP if you wish!

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56 minutes ago, Rodja said:

I'd prefer taking over Soft Left if available.Not my favorite option,i'd prefer someone more left like Corbyn or Benn but Gordon Brown is ok.Can you or someone else just help me get through the basics ?

Soft left is yours! Your fellow party members are:

@Fbarbarossa, Left Wing controller. Tony Benn, etc.

@WVProgressive, Labour Right player. Controls Prime Minister Kinnock.

Check the post I made last night for the rules. You can do a party event, and propose legislation. 

Next turn when we have a new roundup you will have legislation to react to and vote upon. Dont forget to check the spreadsheet for faction information as well.

Check the history of the RP to see how things are run as well!

If you got any questions let me know 🙂

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13 minutes ago, Patine said:

You mean centrist with soft-left tendencies. I mentioned that above. Brown is kind of like the Clintons in that way.

Not really, Soft Left Labour is more Left-Social Democrats at this point in time, while the Labour Left are the Democratic Socialists, and the Labour Right are more Croslandite Social Democrats. The Party closest to the Clinton's currently would probably be the Liberal Democrats. Heck, both Billy, and Paddy had sex scandals relating to their conduct with female staffers, the resemblance is uncanny 😉

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19 minutes ago, Patine said:

You mean centrist with soft-left tendencies. I mentioned that above. Brown is kind of like the Clintons in that way.

Look, are you wanting to join as well or not? I dont need a lecture from you on what faction a politician is a part of. Be a good boy.

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Alex Salmond introduces the Scotland Act of 1992 which will provide devolution in the form of a Scottish Parliament immediately, no referendum required. He says that the votes for Scottish Labour MPs, Liberal Democrat MPs and SNP MPs who all support devolution showed Scotland wants devolution now. The system will be run on a proportional AMS system (like it is currently). 

Party Politics: Salmond celebrates SNP victories with a party in Glasgow

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Party Politics (Plaid): Plaid Cymru continues to beef up local campaigns to try and make a better position for the party in the future.

Ieuan Wyn Jones introduces the Welsh Parliament Referendum Act which will do exactly as it says 😛

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Green proposes legislation that would expand NHS coverage

Caroline Lucas has introduced legislation that would expand the coverage of the NHS to also cover dental and eye care. She hopes that under a Labour government that the NHS can be expanded to meet more needs of the British people.

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23 hours ago, Pringles said:

Upon the election of a Prime Minister, the following turn, the player who is Prime Minister will have 5 events which will be rolled with a D20. These events will be the mandate/beginning agenda the new, or re-elected Prime Minister seeks to enact. This is the only time this will occur. 

1. The Labour Government will work with the Lib Dems and the other parties to pass comprehensive Civil Rights laws in protection of the LGBT community, with the flagship bill being one that would legalize all marriages between two persons above the legal age of consent.

2. The Kinnock government will play to the left wing base, and push for the renationalization of British Rail.

3. The Government will work to raise the national minimum wage to 3.40p and hour

4. The Labour party will bring all major North Irish Parties, and the Irish Government to the negotiating table to try, and reach a permanent end to the violence in Northern Ireland.

5. The government will propose taking the low paid out of taxation, while also creating a new 50p top band.

Kinnock I Cabinet

Prime Minister: Neil Kinnock

Chancellor of the Exchequer: John Smith

1st Secretary of State: Tony Benn

Secy of State for Foreign, and Commonwealth Affairs: Gerald Kaufman

Secy of State for the Home Office: Tony Blair

Secy of State for Defense: Ken Livingston

Secy of State for Education, and Science: Michael Meacher

Secy of State for Employment: Margaret Beckett

Secy of State for Energy: David Blunkett

Secy of State for the Environment: John Prescott

Secy of State for Social Security: Roy Hattersley

Secy of State for Health: Jeremy Corbyn

Secy of State for Industry: Jack Straw

Minister of Overseas Development: Robin Cooke

Secy of State for Trade: Bryan Gould

Secy of State for Scotland: Gordon Brown

Secy of State for Wales: Barry Jones

Secy of State for Northern Ireland: Dennis Skinner

Minister for Planning and Local Government: John Morriss

Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries, and Food: Jo Richardson

Chancellor for the Duchy of Lancaster: Peter Mandelson

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14 minutes ago, Patine said:

OOC: Whose the Lord President of the Privy Council?

I forgot I had to appoint one, so I guess it goes to... Tony Benn 😛 

Only joking, I'll give it John Reid, Lord President of the Privy Council under Blair for a short time in 2003.

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On 5/7/2021 at 9:58 PM, Pringles said:
  • All other parties and factions are allowed 1 party event per turn. I can ok an additional event should a member of your party not do an event of their own. 
  • A maximum of 1 bill per faction may be proposed each turn for major parties.

Party event: Newly-elected Leader of the Opposition John Major will hold a Press Conference slamming Labour as "out of step" with not just the British people for their effort to legalize same-sex marriage, something which polls show a supermajority of the country opposes, but for being "out of step" with their own manifesto, a document with which they pledged no new nationalizations! Will Nationalization Neil be straight with the British people or just keep playing dodgy politics! He will bring up these concerns on behalf of the British people during PMQs, we demand answers!

Proposed Law: In response to the breaking of the no nationalization pledge on behalf of the new government, the Tories will hold their feet to the fire on this issue. Major, Portillo, and their economic shadow Ministers will announce the introduction of the "Economic Freedom Defense Act" which will freeze the power of the Prime Minister to nationalize new industries and make it harder for Parliament to do so, save for a qualified majority. The Tory line will be that it shouldn't be too difficult for the Prime Minister to agree if he really is interested in keeping the promises he made on the campaign trail!

Major's Shadow Cabinet:

Leader of Her Majesty's Most Loyal Opposition: John Major 

Deputy Leader of the Conservative Party: Michael Portillo 

Shadow First Secretary of State (As Deputy Leader): Michael Portillo

Shadow Foreign Secretary: Douglas Hurd 

Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer: Kenneth Clarke 

Shadow Lord High Chancellor: Christopher Prout

Shadow Secretary of State for Defence: Michael Portillo 

Shadow Home Secretary: Norman Lamont

Shadow Secretary of State for Trade and Industry: Nigel Lawson 

Shadow Secretary of State for Energy: The Tories will kindly remind the Prime Minister that this department was abolished by the British Rail and Energy Act and its functions absorbed into the Trade and Industry Department.

Shadow Leader of the House of Commons: Tony Newton 

Shadow Secretary of State for Health: Virginia Bottomley 

Shadow Secretary of State for Social Security: Peter Lilley 

Shadow Secretary of State for Employment: Gillian Shepherd 

Shadow Secretary of State for Education and Science: Peter Brooke 

Shadow Secretary of State for Transport: John MacGregor

Shadow Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food: Anne Widdecombe 

Shadow Secretary of State for the Environment: Michael Heseltine 

Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury: William Hague 

Shadow Secretary of State for Scotland: Allan Stewart 

Shadow Secretary of State for Wales: Gwilym Jones 

Shadow Secretary of State for Northern Ireland: Patrick Mayhew 

Shadow Minister for Women's Rights: Jill Knight 

Shadow Minister for International Development and co-operation: Michael Ancram 

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Michael Heseltine will officially announce the formation of the One-Nation Front, a political nonprofit designed to endorse, run ads for, and support One-Nation and moderate Tories in local and Parliamentary elections across the UK. 

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15 hours ago, Pringles said:

@Timur Have you decided what you will be playing as? DUP?

Yes, DUP.

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22 hours ago, Pringles said:

Look, are you wanting to join as well or not? I dont need a lecture from you on what faction a politician is a part of. Be a good boy.

John Bercow wants to know your location.

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The DUP will campaign in Mid-Ulster hoping to regain the seat. They will distribute leaflets which depict Sinn Fein, SDLP, John Hume, and Denis Haughey as tools of the Antichrist.

The DUP will not propose any legislation for the time being, but it will oppose the legalization of same-sex marriage. (I don't know what legislation the DUP would legislate in the UK Parliament. Classifying Sinn Fein/IRA as terrorists?)

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BBC News - April 27th, 1992

Prime Minister Events

Comprehensive Civil Rights for LGBT Couples Legislation "Same Sex Marriages Act of 1992" (20/20) holy shit: Despite the majority of public opinion being against same sex marriage, the Prime Ministers cooperation and personality drums up support as many take notice of doing what should be the right thing. An uptick in support for the LGBT movement see's an increase. However, it is likely to still face opposition in Parliament. It has decent prospects of passing, however, High Tories such as Ann Widdecomb are already going on BBC Interviews accusing the Prime Minister of destroying the British way of life and enabling "mentally ill individuals." (Sorry for saying this I am just saying what she would say.) 

Renationalization of British Railway Companies (3/20): The effort is a huge backlash as many see it as going against the Labour Manifesto. Prominent Cabinet Ministers such as Tony Blair announce complete, and utter opposition to the effort to renationalize the British Rail. Citing an economic and business recovery that took place at the beginning of the year, and no need for further instability among the railways.

Raising the Minimum Wage (18/20): A classic, popular move. Neil and the Labour Administration recovers from the nationalization backlash as many in the lower class, working class, and middle class support the move. Especially with the economy on the rise and the nation being able to afford the costs. 

Northern Ireland Negotiations (19/20): Kinnocks efforts are well received as many see him as the humble personality to try and get the chaos known as Northern Ireland to the negotiating table. However, despite the good press, at the end of the day it's up to the people of Northern Ireland themselves. @Kitten @Timur @Rezi

Labour Tax Bill (15/20): It's certainly a left wing move but it's quite popular. And well received. As "Kinnock the Man" comes out as a compassionate, and for the most part, sensible leader trying to look out for the underprivileged in British society. Especially after the era of Thatcher. 

Overall: 75/100. The Prime Ministers mandate is very well received as many see him as a breath of fresh air for the United Kingdom. Despite the nationalization fiasco, Kinnock's personal popularity is set to remain high as most Britton's see him as a man simply trying to look out for everybody. This is a good image to maintain for the Labour Party. Especially as he is leading from the position with a fragile Minority Government. 

General Headlines

  • Overall Popularity of Parliament continues to surge as many see the Prime Minister, Leader of the Opposition, and Leader of the Second Opposition as all competent, decent, and efficient Government leaders. Government confidence is at an all time high. 
  • Speaker Elections begin between Betty Boothroyd and Peter Brooke.
  • Local Elections set to occur on May 7th accompanied with Finchley By-Election. 
  • IRA Assassination attempt uncovered on Roy Beggs. 

Opinion Polling will be in a couple of roundups when we have passed time by a couple of months.

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Parliamentary Motions

Northern Ireland Policing Act (4 Previously; 6 Presently = 5): The Bill is received better this time! It was never really an unpopular bill among Northern Ireland. But it now has a large chance of passing with the new Government and likely won't received any sort of major obstructionism. 

Gender Equality Bill (10! Previously; 1! Presently = 6): The Media picks up on the political expediency and the likely internal political shenanigans as it's clear as to why the Liberal Democrats are working with the Labour Government and not the Tories who killed this bill in the previous Parliament. However, the bill remains popular and has a greater chance of passing this time.  

Scotland Act of 1992 (6 Previously Rolled 10!): The bill remains extremely popular among Scotland as many in Scotland believe there is hope that the bill will pass under this new government. Time will tell if the Scottish Labour MPs are enough to tilt the vote this time, and if the Labour Party leadership decided to back it this time. 

Welsh Referendum Act (2): While popular among some in Wales. Support just isn't as high in Wales as it is in Scotland for devolution. Time will tell on what happens in this front. 

NHS Expansion (4): Proposed by Caroline Lucas; the bill is received well among the Leftists but it's likely to face quite a bit opposition in Parliament from the Tories. 

Economic Freedom Defense Act (2): While the bill stirs up the Conservative base, many in the media criticize the move as too politically expedient for a fresh Leader of the Opposition. Many political pundits are saying Major should've just let Labour shoot themselves in the foot on this one. We'll see how much support the bill has but it appears unlikely to pass. As Labour's nationalization bill is also on track to failure.

Parliamentary Action Items

Northern Ireland Policing Act

Gender Equality Bill

Scotland Act of 1992

Welsh Referendum Act

NHS Expansion Act

Same Sex Marriages Act of 1992

British Re-Nationalization of Railways Bill

Labour Budget Bill (Includes Tax Bill and Minimum Wage in Prime Minister Events Above)

Economic Freedom Defense Act

Finchley By Election

Speaker Election

Assassination Roll (43/100)

The plot fails as the IRA henchman are caught lurking around Beggs home. All men are arrested but the trail is not traced back to Joe Cahill himself. It reaches the papers the following morning. 

Party Events

SDLP Event (2): The SDLP and John Hume have come a long way since the election. They've spent every resource they got and they're simply worn out. They'll definitely need to recover. As it will be tough to expand into the unionist areas. 

BNP Combat 18 Event (1!): The rollout is uh. Quite a disaster I guess... but I think the Dice gave you the 1 because no racist remarks. Sorry. 

Sinn Fein (4): Sinn Fein and Gerry Adams struggle a bit as the SDLP surge in Northern Ireland knocked quite a lot of people out. However, it's nothing they can't recover from.

SNP Party Event (8): Victory celebrations go well as the SNP surge in Scotland continues!

Plaid Event (9): Plaid keeps the momentum going after a strong race to the finish line in the election.

John Major Press Conference (8): Major appeals to social Conservatives and what appears to be the majority of the country. He succeeds in uniting them against the upcoming legislation on the matter of Same Sex Marriage. However it is becoming increasingly clear, that society is changing as it has always done. Major's attacks on Labour pushing for nationalization hit home and deals a small blow to the Administration. 

One Nation Event (1!): Heseltine isn't as popular as he once was... many see him as too old and not the face of the One Nation movement anymore. The people love John Major too much.

Soft Left Event (10!): The Soft Left is drumming up support for the Prime Minister. (Combined with your Same Sex Proposal, as it has already occurred.) And the Soft Left is out on the ground and solidly united in favor of expanding the right to marriage to Same Sex couples.

DUP Event (9): The tactic surprisingly works well. Many in Northern Ireland still love John Hume but they can definitely see Sinn Fein being the harbinger of the antichrist.

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By Elections

With Former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher being installed as a Baroness to the House of Lords, her seat is now subject to a By Election. Everyone that is eligible to submit candidates please do so. 

Speaker Election

In what is expected to be a an easy contest for Betty Boothroyd, MP's are set to vote on the next Speaker of the House. The procedure will be presided over Father of the House; Sir Edward Heath. 

Candidates:

Betty Boothroyd (Labour)

Peter Brooke (Conservative)

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@Fbarbarossa @Cal @WVProgressive @ConservativeElector2 @Dobs @Edouard @Hestia @Cenzonico @Sean F Kennedy @The Blood @Rezi @Timur @Rodja

That's a big turn with a lot of stuff to do! Don't hesitate to ask questions.

For those of us who have just joined. See the "Parliamentary Action Items" section of the post to see what you need to do for next turn! It lists all bills you need to vote on! Not everyone is going to be fielding a by election candidate of course, such as the regional parties. But the rest is for you to state your party, or your factions position on this big slew of bills we have! And the Speaker Election!

Local Elections will be next turn. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Pringles said:

Northern Ireland Policing Act

SDLP votes Aye

5 minutes ago, Pringles said:

Gender Equality Bill

SDLP votes Aye

6 minutes ago, Pringles said:

Scotland Act of 1992

SDLP votes Aye

6 minutes ago, Pringles said:

Welsh Referendum Act

SDLP votes Aye

6 minutes ago, Pringles said:

NHS Expansion Act

SDLP votes Aye

7 minutes ago, Pringles said:

Same Sex Marriages Act of 1992

SDLP votes Aye

7 minutes ago, Pringles said:

British Re-Nationalization of Railways Bill

SDLP votes Aye

7 minutes ago, Pringles said:

Labour Budget Bill

SDLP votes Aye

8 minutes ago, Pringles said:

Economic Freedom Defense Act

SDLP votes Nay

9 minutes ago, Pringles said:

Speaker Election

SDLP supports Betty!

SDLP continues to campaign in Unionist areas of Northern Ireland, reminding the people that they are the ones getting things done for the people of Northern Ireland.

SDLP introduces Irish Reunification referendum Bill from the last parliament, this time extending the referendum to 2002.

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Sinn Féin continues their crusade through Belfast. Every area of the city is littered with signs about the party, and you can constantly hear the faint sound of Gerry Adams yelling at a crowd of potential supporters with a fiery tone about why republicanism is the way forward.

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Northern Ireland Policing Act aye

Gender Equality Bill aye

Scotland Act of 1992 aye 

Welsh Referendum Act aye

NHS Expansion Act aye 

Same Sex Marriages Act of 1992 aye 

British Re-Nationalization of Railways Bill aye

Labour Budget Bill aye to all

Economic Freedom Defense Act nay 

Finchley By Election  Greens will nominate Ashley Gunstock to by election  

Speaker Election supports Betty

Greens will focus on areas of Liverpool to find the most left wing constituencies there.

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Speaker : Question to the Prime Minister, Mister Ashdown !

Paddy Ashdown : Thank you mister speaker. I want to say that this parliament promises more to us than what we have ever expected. I am satisfied of the early days of this Labour government even if not everything is perfect.

Will you allow me first to decline every bills that our party will vote for.

Northern Ireland Policing Act : It is time for more devolution

Gender Equality Bill : It is time to produce the social revolution that our country deserve, now tories can vote against if they want.

Scotland Act of 1992 : Scottish have strongly spoken, devolution is the sole way to save our union.

Welsh Referendum Act : We believe that it is the right thing to do to actually strenghten our union.

Same Sex Marriages Act of 1992 : I have to say that I have been surprised. This bill is co-sponsorized by the Labour government and Libdems. I personnaly intended to push for civil partnership but I can only follow and applaud the strong will from the Prime Minister to modernize our country, which, some decades ago, murdered a national world war hero because of his sexual orientation.

 

We also intend to back the Labour Budget Bill which is a moderate budget. The people of Britain can realize that a Labour minority with the economic check of Libdems produce a government which is actually backed by a big portion of the electorate.

 

We will however oppose pressions from the left-wing of this parliament for what concerns the economy.

We will vote against the NHS Expansion Act because we need to keep a low deficit.

we will strongly oppose British Re-Nationalization of Railways Bill and we hope to see few bills of this kind from the Labour government in the next sessions. Libdems will constantly oppose any nationalizations just like privatizations as it was our promise to voters.

 

The Libdems will not do a lot about the Economic Freedom Defense Act. Even if we agree with the tories on opposing nationalizations, we have to recall that parliament is sovereign. This means that a majority will still be able to take down this bill even if this one provides supermajorities to do any privatizations or nationalizations. We instead invite the tories to work with us to ensure that parliament prevent any nationalizations in the next five years.

 

Finchley By Election

Libdem put Margaret Joachim as can.

Party event : Libdems campaign in Finchley, they hope to win the seat.

Speaker issue : Libdem endorse Betty Boothroyd and present an hommage to Edward Heath as senior of the house.

 

Paddy Ashdown : Mister Speaker, I am ASTONISHED by the comment made by the Shadow Secretary of the official opposition for Agriculture, Fisheries and Food. I perfectly understand that people be reluctent about civil rights' evolutions when they grew up in a different world, I do not understand that a member this parliament insults homosexuals of this country of "mentally illed" people.

Liberal Democrats submit a motion to strip Mrs Anne Widdecombe of her Shadow Secretary. We think that she should not be payed any extra for promoting hate toward an enough oppressed minority.

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