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London Seat Projections

Conservative: 42 - 38.9%

Labour41 - 38.8%

Liberal Democrat: 1 - 18.4%

Other: 0 - 3.9%

Key Race Alerts 

The Conservatives had a tremendous campaign effort in London and it appears to pay off, even if Labour was in town for the final weeks of campaigning. An interesting phenomenon as we are in the midst of a Labour wave, yet London remains blue by the slimmest of margins.

Time will tell if these trends continue.

Overall Parliament Allocation

Labour: 306

Conservative: 260

Liberal Democrat: 53

SNP: 8

Plaid Cymru: 6

Greens: 

Ulster Unionist: 8

Ulster Popular Unionist: 1

Social Democrat: party eliminated

Social Democrat and Labour: 6

Sinn Fein: 0 

Democratic Unionist: 2

British National Party: 0 

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@Fbarbarossa @Cal @WVProgressive @ConservativeElector2 @Dobs @Edouard @Hestia @Cenzonico @Sean F Kennedy @The Blood

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STAND BY FOR ELECTION NIGHT ROUNDUP, POPULAR VOTE, AND REGIONAL MAP! 

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1992 General Election Results 

80% Turnout - 34,156,029

Labour Party (Neil Kinnock) - 13,047,604 votes (38.2%) - 306 Seats in the House of Commons

Conservative Party (Margaret Thatcher) - 11,442,270 votes (33.5%) - 260 Seats in the House of Commons

Liberal Democrats (Paddy Ashdown) - 8,265,759 votes (24.2%) - 53 Seats in the House of Commons

Scottish National Party (Alex Salmond) - 717,276 votes (2.1%) - 8 Seats in the House of Commons

Official Ulster Unionist Party (James Molyneaux) - 375,716 (1.1%) - 8 Seats in the House of Commons

Others - 307,404 (0.9%):

Plaid Cymru - 6

Social Democratic and Labour - 6

Democratic Unionist - 2

Ulster Popular Unionist - 1

Greens - 1

BNP - 0

Sinn Fein - 0

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BBC Post-Election Coverage

It appears that the Exit Poll slightly overestimated Labour strength. According to post election day polling... the final efforts from the Conservatives to hold onto the middle class and perhaps even hold on to their part of the working class paid off.

However, election night is now over and it is a Hung Parliament.

@WVProgressive @Dobs @Edouard

It's time for the major parties to get wheeling and dealing with the smaller parties as that is what must happen in order form a Government. If no one can reach a coalition or confidence and supply agreement, there will potentially be a minority government. Otherwise, you know what that means. New election. (Prongle will die too.)

It's been a fun ride yall! GG. I must say, there were a lot of surprises in this. No one too significant was defeated, but I will have the new spreadsheet fully fuctional by tomorrow. 

Congratulations to the 3 major parties as well! I want to stress the importance of INFLUENCES for next election as well. Perhaps I should've been more in your face on that. 😄 This played a large role in tonight's outcome!!! Regional Rallies + Influence = BIG MO. 

Please post your reactions/victory/concession speeches after this post and don't forget to inform me of any agreements you reach. As I will ok them for you to post!

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General Headlines April 10th, 1992

  • Speaker Bernard Weatherill has officially resigned. Triggering a new election for Speaker of the House of Commons.
  • John Major appears likely to be the next Conservative leader, unless the Thatcherites put up a final fight in the face of the election defeat.
  • The Princess Royal announces her divorce from Capt Mark Phillips after 18 years of marriage, having separated in 1989.

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@Fbarbarossa @Cal @WVProgressive @ConservativeElector2 @Dobs @Edouard @Hestia @Cenzonico @Sean F Kennedy @The Blood

Hope you all had fun! Can't wait to see what comes next! 

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UK General Election 1992 - Lib Dem leader Paddy Ashdown on the campaign  trail - YouTube

Paddy Ashdown gets interviewed right after election results.

Journalist : Mr Ashdown ! Mr Ashdown ! Do you have any comment to make regarding election results?

Paddy Ashdown : Tonight has ended the uselesness of our parliament. Conservatives lost 110 seats and Labour did not get a majority even if they are now the largest party of britain. I promised in my last electoral speech to bring back Libdems in number in parliament and above fifty, tonight it is what we have done.

Journalist : Will you make a deal with the Tories? Or with the Labour party?

Paddy Ashdown : Tonight results have produced a very divided country. I think that we can use this parliament to deliver our agenda and it is that the people of Britain wants. Conservatives can no longer bloc devolution while Labour can not pass its nationalizations bills on their own.

Labour is short by 20 of forming a majority government, they could have it without the Liberal Democrats and our purpose is not to be the back-up of the two party system which lost a lot tonight.

I am not candidate to be deputy Prime Minister if this is your question. Now we will see what the SDLP, Greens, SNP and Plaid decide to do regarding the Labour party.

Libdems will work in order to maintain economic stability of our country as well as to produce a social revolution, the one that we promised to voters.

Thank you all.

 

BBC journalist.. It does not seem tonight that Liberal democrat leader Paddy Ashdown is endorsing any party, we shall see further developments in next days to know if Labour will be back to power after 13 years in opposition benches.

 

 

 

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SNP leader Alex Salmond addresses reporters after Election Day

Salmond tells reporters of a good night by the SNP, winning 8 seats in total in Scotland. He says that the 28% scored by the SNP showed a repudiation of the kind of politics that Scottish Labour has been running in the country. Salmond is hopeful that he will be able to get devolution for Scotland passed in the next parliament, and will take the lead on the issue as Parliament returns. 

Asked about the comments made by Lib Dem leader Paddy Ashdown, Salmond scoffs. "The Liberal Democrats won 50-some odd seats across the United Kingdom. I believe that he needs to be forthright with the intentions of the Liberal Democrats. The SNP has 8 seats. Plaid Cymru won 6. The SDLP won 6. Together, we represent less than what the Lib Dems do. I believe that they should tell the country what their plans are for the future rather than rely on us, several smaller parties who all support independence or autonomy for our regions, to do the work for them."

"I would like to congratulate Labour leader Neil Kinnock on his victory tonight. The SNP will not close our doors to an agreement, but we would like to see outreach from Labour, and more definitive answers from the Liberal Democrats before we begin to move in that direction. Thank you."

Alex Salmond inquiry: Scottish parliament removes and redacts former SNP  leader's evidence | The Independent

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Libdem make a statement in the night :

We understand the words of Alex Salmond and we see the rise of the SNP and Plaid as the rightfull call for many Scottish and Welsh citizens for more devolution, what we understand.

Liberal democrats are clear on the maths, Labour is in the position to form a minority government with enough allied backings to get more seats than any other party backed by Libdems, the only thing that Libdems could do is to give a majority to the Labour party, what the party is not going to do. We have big economic differences which make sure that a coalition could not work. Liberal Democrats will remain on opposition benches.

However Liberal Democrats are ready to work with Labour SNP and Plaid on devolution as well as Social Progress while we are also ready to work with Conservatives on keeping a low inflation and a low deficit.

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Caroline Lucas celebrates victory in Brighton Pavilion

”My friends we have broken all expectations and won a seat in parliament, two years ago we began this journey to give Britains a real option for social and environmental justice and I am willing to work with whichever party forms government but I am hoping my friends in the Labour Party are able to due to the fact they have the plurality of votes and seats. I look forward to Winn more seats for the Green Party down the road!”

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SDLP's Hume issues statement on election

"The SDLP is committed to working with the largest party in parliament in order to bring much needed change to our institutions. We will only be asking for a Reunification Referendum in 2000 and a devolved parliament as soon as possible. The SDLP will work to get the people of Northern Ireland the investments and Policing it needs."

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It's Official - Liberal Democrats, and Labour Agree To A Confidence And Supply Agreement That Would Allow Labour To Form A Minority Government!

The Main Planks Of The Agreement:

 

-Lib-Dems will let the labour government enter in function as a minority government

-Both parties will do everything to find a consensual agreement on the budget each year

-Both parties will try to implement major policies on devolution and social rights for women and minorities by the next years

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@Fbarbarossa @Cal @WVProgressive @ConservativeElector2 @Dobs @Edouard @Hestia @Cenzonico @Sean F Kennedy @The Blood

I believe we have most reactions in, but take as long as you need. For those who haven't made a reaction yet, you have until later tomorrow as I have to reorganize the Spreadsheet. In the meantime, be thinking about who you want your Cabinets and Shadow Cabinets! The following governing turns and event layout/format will be what we follow for the rest of the RP!

See positions in the Spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j3dr-fX4VkCaZRyDWkzN-1Dz0NWSLtIqWWELelIetLY/edit?usp=sharing

 

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Gerry Adams and Pat Doherty give a speech in Belfast:

 

"The results of this election come as a disappointment, and perhaps a surprise to many of us that Sinn Feín will no longer be seated in the parliament. However, let it be known that in the period between this election and the next, our presence will be known in Northern Ireland, and that we will return, stronger than ever. No matter what happens, the Unionists will not get their way as long as we have something to say about it."

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Liberal Democrats reveal their shadow cabinet as second opposition :

For Leader Paddy Ashdown

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For deputy leader of the party and leader in Commons, Charles Kennedy

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As Foreign Secretary Menzies Campbell

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For Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Treasury, Malcolm Bruce

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For the Defense, Mike Hancock

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For Treade, David Chidgey

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For Energy and Health, Simon Hughes

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For Social Security, Peter Brand 

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For Employment Education and Science, Don Foster

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For Transports, Matthew Taylor

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For Agriculture, fisheries and Food, Andrew George

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For Environment, Norman Baker

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For Scotland, Jim Wallace

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For Wales, Frances David

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For Northern Ireland, Paddy Ashdown (the leader keeps it)

For Women's rights, Jackie Ballard

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For International Development

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Cabinet with seats

Leader of the second official opposition : Paddy Ashdown (Yeovil)
Deputy leader of the Liberal Democrats : Charles Kennedy (Ross, Skye and Lochaber)

Shadow Leader of the House of Commons : Charles Kennedy (Ross, Skye and Lochaber)
Shadow Foreign Secretary : Menzies Campbell (North East Fife)

Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer : Malcolm Bruce (Gordon)
Shadow Defense Secretary Mike Hancock (Portsmouth South) (I think it is in the 11 Libdem pickups in Southeastern)
Shadow Secretary for Trade and Industry : David Chidgey (Eastleigh)
Shadow Secretary of State for Energy : Simon Hughes (Bermondsey and Old Southpark)
Shadow Secretary of State for Health : Simon Hughes (Bermondsey and Old Southpark)

Shadow Secretary of State for Social Security : Peter Brand (Isle of Whites)
Shadow Secretary of State for Employment : Don Foster (Bath)
Shadow Secretary of State for Education and Science
: Don Foster (Bath)
Shadow Secretary of State for Transport : Matthew Taylor (Truro and St Austell)
Shadow Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food : Andrew George (St Ives)
Shadow Secretary of State for the Environment : Norman Baker (Lewes) (I think it is in the 11 Libdem pickups)
Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury Malcolm Bruce (Gordon)
Shadow Secretary of State for Scotland :  Jim Wallace (Orkney and Shetland)
Shadow Secretary of State for Wales : Frances David (Monmouth)
Shadow Secretary of State for Northern Ireland : Paddy Ashdown (Yeovil) keeps it for himself considering the IRA
Shadow Minister for Women's Rights : Jackie Ballard (Taunton) (I think I got it in Southwest)
Shadow Minister for International Development and co-operation : Ronnie Fearn (Southport) (I consider it to be in the 11)

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Outgoing Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher leaves Downing Street - 1992

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"Ladies and Gentlemen, it is with a heavy heart that I come to you today. As many of you know, we proved the polls wrong last night. We fought an exceptionally tough campaign with exceptionally tough leaders, ideas, and most of all, supporters. To all those who kept up the fight: thank you. A particularly special thanks is due to my dear friend and trusted Chancellor, John Major. John, we could not have done as well as we did without your tireless activism and support. I'd also like to thank my home constituency of Finchley for re-electing me to represent them in the House of Commons with a resounding majority and to the city of London for at least wanting to keep me as their neighbor. 

Laughter

But now, the page has been turned. Indeed, Britain and the World are different from when I first arrived here in 1979. There is no doubt in my mind that we have made this country stronger, prouder, and freer. We have won wars against brutal dictators together. We have tackled recessions together. We have seen unparalleled prosperity and economic growth together. We have stared down the ugly face of terrorism and watched it blink together. We have defeated Socialism at home and we have toppled Communism abroad- together. And while work certainly remains, we have re-shaped Britain.

We're leaving Downing Street for the last time after thirteen wonderful years, and we're very happy that we leave the United Kingdom in a very, very much better state than when we came here thirteen years ago.

It's been a tremendous privilege to serve this country as Prime Minister—wonderfully happy years—and I'm immensely grateful to the staff who supported me so well, and may I also say a word of thanks to all the people who sent so many letters, still arriving, and for all the flowers.

Now it's time for a new chapter to open. Both for this country and for the Conservative Party. I wish the incoming Prime Minister stability and luck as he embarks upon this challenging yet distinctly rewarding office. But next, it is also my intention to step back as leader of the Conservative Party. In many ways, this decision was even harder than that of leaving Number 10, which has been seemingly made for me.

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But it is time for a new face to lead the Conservative Party. After seventeen years, the Tories are looking for their next Iron Gentleman. And to that end, I wish John Major all the luck in the world. He has been a close confidante and true friend throughout our time together, and he will be a fantastic Leader of the Opposition, a roll I still remember filling. He'll be splendidly served and he has the makings of a great Prime Minister, which I'm sure he'll be in very short time. 

Britain, this is not goodbye forever. I will remain as tirelessly devoted to you and our values as I was when I was first elected to Parliament in 1959. You cannot shake off the Iron Lady that easily. 

Thank you very much and may God Bless you all."

Mrs. and Mr. Thatcher then depart Number 10 for the last time; she has been Prime Minister since 1979

Following the retirement of Margaret Thatcher as Leader of the Conservative Party: John Major thanks the Prime Minister for her endorsement and announces his bid for Leader of the Tories. Thatcher's endorsement has largely cleared the field of any Thatcherite contenders with most accepting Major as both popular and conservative enough to represent the party accurate. Prominent Thatcherite and some-say Rising Star Michael Portillo is among the first to endorse and congratulate Major.

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8 hours ago, Dobs said:

Outgoing Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher leaves Downing Street - 1992

 

Newly minted Prime Minister Neil Kinnock recommend to the Sovereign that one Margaret Thatcher, MP for Finchley, have a Lordship Temporal created and she be installed the Baroness Thatcher, Member of the House of Lords.

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1 hour ago, WVProgressive said:

Newly minted Prime Minister Neil Kinnock recommend to the Sovereign that one Margaret Thatcher, MP for Finchley, have a Lordship Temporal created and she be installed the Baroness Thatcher, Member of the House of Lords.

Thatcher graciously accepts, thanking the Prime Minister. She therefore surrenders her seat in the House of Commons in order to be seated in the House of Lords.

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BBC News - April 20th, 1992

General Headlines

  • The Labour Party and the Liberal Democrats agree to a confidence and supply agreement. Allowing the formation of a Minority Government.
  • Three people are killed in the Baltic Exchange bombing.
  • Margaret Thatcher resigns as Conservative leader. A Lordship Temporal is created for the now Former Prime Minister as she becomes Baroness Thatcher. A member of the House of Lords.
  • Lost Gardens of Heligan in Cornwall first opened to the public.
  • Speakership elections begin as the 62 year old Labour MP; Betty Boothroyd appears to be next in line as the next Speaker of the House of Commons.
  • Overall Parliamentary Approval reaches an all time high as it appears most Britton's remain satisfied with both the Prime Minister, and the Leader of the Opposition.

1992 Tory Leadership Election

After being endorsed by the outgoing Prime Minister, and being recognized by many of his fellow party members as the champion of the 1992 election campaign. John Major of Huntingdon is set to be the next leader of the Conservative Party and subsequently, the Leader of the Opposition.

The final result among the Conservative MP's would be 259-1. After a secret ballot, John Redwood announced his distaste for the result and appears to have been the only MP to vote against John Major. 😄 

Spreadsheet Finalized & Cabinet Positions Needed

@Dobs @WVProgressive @Edouard

Everyone please check out the new spreadsheet. Let me know if you have any questions or see an error, and I will fix it. Although I believe everything is right. With that said, I need everyone's cabinet positions!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j3dr-fX4VkCaZRyDWkzN-1Dz0NWSLtIqWWELelIetLY/edit?usp=sharing

New Governing Rules

Alright, we are now into what is going to be the rules for the rest of the game. So read carefully!

  • Upon the election of a Prime Minister, the following turn, the player who is Prime Minister will have 5 events which will be rolled with a D20. These events will be the mandate/beginning agenda the new, or re-elected Prime Minister seeks to enact. This is the only time this will occur. 
  • Each governing turn will be 3 months per turn unless in special circumstances it needs to be lower.
  • At times I may come up to the Prime Minister privately for your decision on specific events that will be displayed in a roundup. 
  • The Prime Minister has 3 Executive Events (this includes bill proposals) to do each turn, and an optional party event. 
  • All other parties and factions are allowed 1 party event per turn. I can ok an additional event should a member of your party not do an event of their own. 
  • A maximum of 1 bill per faction may be proposed each turn for major parties.
  • Parties with no seats are of course, still allowed to do a party event. And obviously, no bill proposals.
  • Smaller parties with seats are allowed a party event, and a bill proposal each turn. 

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@Fbarbarossa @Cal @WVProgressive @ConservativeElector2 @Dobs @Edouard @Hestia @Cenzonico @Sean F Kennedy @The Blood @Rezi

Glad to be back! Time to get er goin. 

If you have any questions, ask me! To make it clear once more, the Prime Minister has 5 events to do for this turn as it will lay the foundation of their mandate. It can range from anything. A bill proposal, a diplomatic event, you name it! 

Everyones Cabinet/Shadow cabinet positions are needed as well!

Other parties may carry on as usual with the rules outlined above. 

@Rezi Welcome Rezi! As our fellow Sinn Fein player. 😳

 

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SDLP begins to establish itself in the more Unionist areas of Northern Ireland as it prepares itself for the future.

SDLP introduces Policing Act for Northern Ireland, similar to the last parliamentary session

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Incumbent speaker : Ordeerrr, question to the Prime Minister

Labour ranks who have been in opposition for thirteen years : YEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

Speaker : Mister Paddy Ashdown

Libdem ranks who grew up since last time : YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Paddy Ashdown, LD Yeovil :  Thank you mister speaker ! Mister speaker may I say that, for the first time since a long time, parliament is back?

Libdem backbenchers erupt in satisfaction

Paddy Ashdown For the first time since 1974, no party controls this parliament on its own. That means that every party, including the SDLP, the SNP and Plaid or our newly colleague from Brighton Pavillon can play a role in national politics.

As for the Libdems, you will allow me to say that we have become a national party. I let 20 members on those benches and I find back more than fifty alongside me. 

Mister speaker, I am certain that this parliament will deliver what the British people voted for, and I attend to do everything to deliver the Liberal Democrat manifesto even if we are not the government, simply because we don't have to wait to deliver it.

The Liberal Democrats submit once again their Gender Equality bill. There is a majority of progressives in this parliament that will make it pass once and for good.

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High Ranking Sinn Feín members will campaign throughout Belfast, focusing on building a ground game to recapture Gerry Adams' seat in Belfast West and expand through the rest of the city.

 

Sinn Feín supporter and member IRA Army Council Joe Cahill will plot with fellow members of the IRA to assassinate UUP member and representative for East Antrim, Roy Beggs. They would stake out his home, getting down the consistencies of his schedule, and have a bomb set in the hedges outside of his home set to explode as he is walking out the gate.

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4 minutes ago, Timur said:

Yes, I would be interested in joining as well.

The DUP and the Official Monster Raving Loony Party are the ones I would consider.

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